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#98533 by Terraformer
Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:08 pm
Hello there, Devin.

I'd like to know why your choice fell on the NG (natural gloss)
version of the ESP SC-607B, and not the black one.
Simply a cosmetic reason? I'm asking, 'cause the body wings
of the two versions differ in wood-type. Yours (the NG version)
has mahogany wings, while the black versions' wings are maple.
Have you tried both versions, and if so, do they differ in sound/
feel/response? With active pickups, does the wood-type of the
guitar affect/color the sound at all? (sigh...okay this IS a tech-shit
question). If the SC-607 had passive pickups, I'd say:
"Well, the mahogany version might have a darker, fuller, more
meaty tone, while the maple version is supposed to sound more
"shiny" and react more explosive."

I wanna get one, you know (this should be clear by now...wanted
one since they came out in 2003), but I have no possibility to compare
both models, cause my local dealer only has the black version in stock.
So IF you have played BOTH versions, a little tip on why YOU prefer
the NG would be nice. If not...nevermind...One can only talk 'bout what
one knows...

Thx for your time anyway.
Take care, have fun and all the best!

Danny

#98898 by The Incision
Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:58 pm
not to reply to you like I have all the answers brother..but I have seen Devin use both model colors, along with the non-baritone steph carpenter 7 strings too.
-Brent 8)

#98916 by Terraformer
Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:39 pm
Thx for the info so far Brent! :D

You know, I was just wondering how both baritone models
differ in sound/response. I have no idea how much effect
the wood type has on that combined with active pickups like
the EMG81. Till now I've only played passive pickups.
But I think the effect (though it might be less noticable) will
be pretty much the same. Mahogany will sound fuller, more
round and meaty, while maple has a more defined attack and
will sound more "pearly" and "shiny".

Heck...I think I'll wait 'till I get the possibility to compare both
models. It's hard to find a shop near me which might have both
versions in stock, but I'll give it a try and phone 'round a 'lil.

#99047 by Guitarzan
Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:50 am
A lot of people tend to rip on EMGs based on the fact that they sound pretty similar no matter what guitar you put them in. I'm not quite sure on the total validity of this, however, because my ESP Explorer sounded different than an ESP KH-2 I once played.

In my opinion, a pretty neutral or bright sounding 7 string would be optimum, to keep the low B from getting to bassy/muddy. But the SC-607B natural finish guitar has a maple neck thru, thus most of the tone would come from the maple anyway, so both models should be fairly tonally balanced, as in not too overly warm/bright. I would honestly go on what finish you prefer. I myself prefer the sunburst SC-607 model, what a beut!

#110543 by beavis christ
Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:58 am
Hey Terraformer,

I have tried both and the black one isnt as chunky, it has more of a smoother sound, the wood one is the metal machine. I personally like the look of the black one better, but my vote for sound wise goes to woody! Hope that helps ya.

#110550 by Terraformer
Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:18 am
Thx for the info!

I was going for the mahogany one anyway. The simple reason is
that the Ibanez S470K NT that I'm using right now is made of
mahogany too and it sounds killer. It's also very natural looking.
Just the pure wood, no finish attached, not even a translucent
protection coat like the SC 607 NG has. I'm proud of this one.
If it had a baritone neck, it would be perfect. My absolute dream
guitar. Hm, maybe I should try to get a fitting baritone neck for it
instead of buying the SC. I know an instrument tech who would
build one for me. Well, anyway, thx for the info again.
IF I should buy an SC 607 I now definitely know which one to pick.

#110640 by Biert
Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:42 pm
Doesn't Dev have both a wooden and a black one? One being a normal 7-string guitar, the other a baritone? Or have I been dreaming again?

#110644 by Terraformer
Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:39 pm
Well, I think Dev has a black SC607 and a mahogany SC607B.
So the black one is an "ordinary" 7-string, while the 607B is
a 7-string baritone.

#110681 by beavis christ
Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:46 pm
He has both in baritone actually.

#110690 by Terraformer
Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:36 pm
I see...but didn't he also use a standard SC607 some time before?
Anyway...wow...7-string baritone...must be killer to be able to tune
down to G...I was down to Ab once on my standard-scale 6-string.
But don't ask for the gauge I was using then...Had to drill open my
machine heads to get those 76 strings through. Didn't use that
tuning for long though. Not because I didn't like it. But no bassist
would tune down that low and play with me. :(
Ha...someone should tell all those shortscale players to get a REAL
bass! :D

#110693 by beavis christ
Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:13 pm
You are right he does have just the regular 7 string version as well sorry. :oops:

Haha I always have my bass player in Evenlight complaining about being downtuned and on top of that in an open tuning.

#110755 by Terraformer
Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:22 am
I just wish I could get my Ibanez to intonate more sober in the
B F# B F# B D# tuning. You know, the higher you go on the
fretboard the more you get out of tune. Well, I can't blame the
guitar for that. It wasn't fretted for this. Also I can't buy regular
string sets, cause of my Floyd Rose trem. I always have to by
single strings to compensate the tension difference between the
single strings. I use a thicker gauge for the strings that I tune
down and a lighter one for those that I tune up. Otherwise
some strings will feel like rubber while others will cut your
fingertips when you try to bend them, cause of the high tension.
Right now I'm using (from lowest to highest):
60, 42, 28, 13, 10, 9.
The free-floating trem brings MANY disadvantages. But on the
other hand, it became a component of my playing style.
I don't have the bar attached, but I tend to bend and trem
with the palm of my rhythm hand, especially during solos and
when playing pinch harmonics. Minimally most of the time, but
it helps to hold end expand the tone.
Every time I play on guitars with a solid bridge I miss this feature.
So if I'd get an SC I might have a guitar-tech attach a trem to it..
NOT a freefloating one like I have now...A normal oldshool trem
should do the job. Well, I'd need a special bar on it, one that is
BEHIND the trem, to allow me to play with it the way I got used to
(with my palm laying on it), but I think it won't be impossible to
make something like this. I'd just have to attach it reversed and
then bend the bar upwards in a 90 degree angle, to make
it something like an extension of the bridge.

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