The infinite waltz, welcome home, ladies and gentlemen

#127512 by Blazingmonga
Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:34 am
John wrote:Infinity is done, and - if you think about it from our perspective - is supposed to sound the way it does. To everyone except Devin. Seriously, I don't want anyone poking around in the song order, the mixing, the artwork or anything, not even Devin, because to me (and to most who love the album, I'd say) the album is perfect. Please leave it the way it is, but by all means, go ahead and create another "Devin Townsend" solo album, Infinity style! Now THAT would rule, don't you think? :)


This is extremely well put, definitely. I hold the original version very close to my heart, and it is part of me and my skin. In reality it is the first time I ever really 'loved' music. The first time music was anything other than entertainment. I don't want that experience to change, but at the same time I have complete faith in Devin to release something worthwhile. If anyone can do this, it is him. If anything he has the right and we have no way to stop him!

Noodles wrote:Infinity always sounded like a collection of song rather than a cohesive album to me... at least compared to Devin's other stuff which is generally fairly encompassing and sort of conceptual.


This is funny, because I completely 100% disagree. I think Infinity is the most conceptual album of them all. I think it is totally cohesive and beyond anything he has released before or since. It is possible that you just haven't 'got' it yet. I don't mean that in an elitist sort of way (your view is just as valid as mine) but simply that I used to feel this way too - about all of Devin's albums. It took a long time and a lot of listening to reach my own understanding of what it all meant, for it all to 'become cohesive' (apparently 'cohese' isn't a word!).

I think that we owe it to Devin to let him do this. We can see here clearly that this album is something special, and if Devin wants to do it justice then we should be more than willing to listen.

#127517 by danceswithchickens
Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:57 am
darknetghost wrote:
Biert wrote:http://hevydevyforums.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3164


I've read that post before, but it still doesn't answer my original question. Where did greg reason get that list? Of course, that's a question for him really.


I'm pretty sure it came from Devin himself, originally...

#127524 by Metalmonkey
Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:42 am
danceswithchickens wrote:
darknetghost wrote:
Biert wrote:http://hevydevyforums.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3164


I've read that post before, but it still doesn't answer my original question. Where did greg reason get that list? Of course, that's a question for him really.


I'm pretty sure it came from Devin himself, originally...


If you read the post even more carefully, you'll see that line :
Tracy let us know that the album didn't turn out the way it was originally envisioned, and gave us the tracklist


:wink:

#127542 by brimir
Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:21 pm
"Infinity" is a difficult album. It takes most people a lot of time to truly "get". It´s just as insane as it is beautiful. I remember originally that this album was supposed to be HUGE......it was supposed to be the mother of "City" and "Ocean Machine". It was supposed to be the final chapter of the trilogy.

I LOVE "Infinity" and I hold it very close to my heart. But still I never thought that it lived up to that "mother" status that it was supposed to hold.
Afterwards Devin said that the album didn´t turn out the way it was supposed to due to stress and other reasons......and I´ve always had that feeling in the back of my head: Man, I wish he could have made it properly and made the HUGE album that he originally intented.

So if this is for real and Devin decides to re-do Infinity, than I will just say: Devin, best of luck man and I can´t wait to hear it. I hope you will be able to do it this time the way you meant to do it in the first place!!!

Of course many people think that "Infinity" is perfect the way it is and those people will always have the original.

#127554 by SouldrivenDevil
Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:06 pm
Noodles wrote:Infinity always sounded like a collection of song rather than a cohesive album to me... at least compared to Devin's other stuff which is generally fairly encompassing and sort of conceptual.


I think if the new one sees the light of day, the flow of the album will be more conceptual and carry a different aura to it

#127557 by SouldrivenDevil
Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:12 pm
brimir wrote:"Infinity" is a difficult album. It takes most people a lot of time to truly "get". It´s just as insane as it is beautiful. I remember originally that this album was supposed to be HUGE......it was supposed to be the mother of "City" and "Ocean Machine". It was supposed to be the final chapter of the trilogy.

I LOVE "Infinity" and I hold it very close to my heart. But still I never thought that it lived up to that "mother" status that it was supposed to hold.
Afterwards Devin said that the album didn´t turn out the way it was supposed to due to stress and other reasons......and I´ve always had that feeling in the back of my head: Man, I wish he could have made it properly and made the HUGE album that he originally intented.

So if this is for real and Devin decides to re-do Infinity, than I will just say: Devin, best of luck man and I can´t wait to hear it. I hope you will be able to do it this time the way you meant to do it in the first place!!!

Of course many people think that "Infinity" is perfect the way it is and those people will always have the original.


Infinity is the mother to all his albums. Just like a mother, the cd will make you happy,sad,angry, emotional, and it gives you a surreal feeling while around it, like a comfort

I believe it is the one cd I can truly put in and completely block out the outside world while listening too. Everytime I listen to it, it's like redefining to my life and emotions. I can usually pick up new sounds everytime I hear it too.

I was trippin mushrooms the other night and noticed at the end of "Truth" there is almost a static rain sound like the last 35 seconds of the song, hadn;t never heard it before till then

#127564 by Noodles
Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:38 pm
Blazingmonga wrote:
Noodles wrote:Infinity always sounded like a collection of song rather than a cohesive album to me... at least compared to Devin's other stuff which is generally fairly encompassing and sort of conceptual.


This is funny, because I completely 100% disagree. I think Infinity is the most conceptual album of them all. I think it is totally cohesive and beyond anything he has released before or since. It is possible that you just haven't 'got' it yet. I don't mean that in an elitist sort of way (your view is just as valid as mine) but simply that I used to feel this way too - about all of Devin's albums. It took a long time and a lot of listening to reach my own understanding of what it all meant, for it all to 'become cohesive' (apparently 'cohese' isn't a word!).

Weird because for all of Devin's other albums, when I listen to them, make me feel as though they've gone somewhere and then wrapped themselves up, but for Infinity I don't really get that feeling. Its just like listening to a collection of really awesome songs. I think its because through the whole album he never really lets up on the intensity until the last song, so its like having someone squeeze on your head for 45 minutes instead of massaging it for an hour. (where the fuck do I come up with these analogies lol?!)

#127670 by Deathcom7000
Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:53 am
wait... what will become of Noisy Pink Bubbles!?! That was my favorite track!!

#127705 by sj_2150
Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:54 am
wow this is going to be EXTREMELY interesting if it ends up happening

#127746 by darknetghost
Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:22 pm
Metalmonkey wrote:
danceswithchickens wrote:
darknetghost wrote:
Biert wrote:http://hevydevyforums.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3164


I've read that post before, but it still doesn't answer my original question. Where did greg reason get that list? Of course, that's a question for him really.


I'm pretty sure it came from Devin himself, originally...


If you read the post even more carefully, you'll see that line :
Tracy let us know that the album didn't turn out the way it was originally envisioned, and gave us the tracklist


:wink:


Oops! I'm an ass.

#127757 by Goat
Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:00 am
Saw, entered, came.

#128017 by Dandamage
Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:53 am
I say do it!!!
Im keen to her a revised version but not an entirely new one, it wouldnt be Infinity.
But Infinity squared
hell yea
Im sold on the title alone
But heaps of wannabe Dev loving dipshits will call it Infinity two(muh!!)
As long as it has "EVERY SINGLE SONG" from both track listings and the ep

And will you bastards stop knocking Physiscist!!!
That album sounds perfect for the electric energetic music it perveys.
Conceptualise....!!!!! man

#128018 by gozu
Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:45 am
i like Infinity... it was my third dev album (After Terria then AE) it made me realise i was dealing with a truely incredible songwriter someone who wouldn't stick to a sound just for a (for want of a better word) "Brand" if dev wants to do it, hell let him, its his work. i agree with Noodles it sounds like a more conventional album, song after song after song... but it does have the all over Circus vibe, I like it!

#148843 by Sirius
Tue May 08, 2007 4:14 am
Sorry for bumping an old post...

I hope The Dev does what he feels is best for this... if he decides not to redo the album, then that is sorta like a relief in a weird way.

I'm one of those people who thinks "What if it was done how they really wanted it to be?" (games, music, movies, books, etc...)

I fully and totally believe in the idea of going back and re doing things in order to make them more like their original vision. I see nothing wrong with it... In a sense it's a triumph of artistic spirit over 'commercialism' or things like that. It's like saying "Stuff you <evilpersonwhomesseditup>! I won! You see! I did what I wanted and THEY (fans) like it!" (Just look at Blade Runner ;))

Devin is now in a position where he can basically do whatever he wants, Ziltoid kinda shows that because it's as crazy and non-commercial as they come.

Hence it wouldn't surprise me if Devin uses this time to look back and see what he can do differently, before moving on to new things. You see, he has no commitments to labels or anyone now that SYL has finished their contract. So as a result he can do whatever he feels like before moving on to the 'normal way' of doing things, ie. 'contractual grind' (But I hope it doesn't end up like that :) Give The Dev full control! *prods record labels*)

... or maybe I'm talking crap and need to "get over" things o.o

*runs away and lurks* :P

#155353 by Greg Reason
Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:05 am
I'm a little scared but Devin knows that this is his best work so I trust him to do it the credit it deserves...

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