OK, let me say this once and for all.

OF COURSE I'M NOT AN ALIEN!

jeez...

I will take "lifting weights" or doing the dishes any day over trying to ONCE AGAIN figure out why am I here and what the fuck my purpose is....you are right, those quiet moments are the most important. Meditation is listening for answers......and it happens in the most mundane and simple moments...when the mind is QUIET.

yep, I am with you Dev. I was definitely God, an alien, and the center of the universe once too. So were you in my eyes. Glad to know neither of us are any of these.....

Dan

I knew you read Alan Watts, Dev, even though I've never heard/seen you say it directly until now. =) The only time I ever met you, it was after a Strapping show in Tampa, Florida and we greeted each other with "Namaste"

But anyhow, if anyone else wants to read Watts and never has, the best place to start is "The Book" after that, his other stuff will be easier/better.

But the rain and the sun are beautiful, and I love pineapple.

Words of wisdom, man:)

I find it hard to get behind a race of creatures that would go billions of light years to glean information from a species who has 90% of their problems solved by copulating once a week.

I lol'd.

i am so lost with words after reading that! i think u have such a great soul devin!
i learn so much from reading the stuff you write! thank you!!

"But the rain and the sun are beautiful, and I love pineapple."

so beautiful!
thank you

So to finish here, yeah, I've said TONS of stupid shit in my lyrics, please understand that I question everything and know NOTHING, and as I get older, I know even less. Hey I'm a Christian! Hey I'm a Satanist! Hey I'm a Canadian! Hey, I'm defined by my hair!

Maybe you don't know anything, but you sure have nailed the best way to explain these things in a way our feeble human brains can handle!

OK, let me say this once and for all.

OF COURSE I'M NOT AN ALIEN!

Yep see I told you. Hes an alien. Only an alien says he isn't one.

Townsend's idea that he is no less than God himself, and incontestable fact that Devin has been abducted by aliens, it puts the thought into my mind: could it happen that aliens had changed Devin Townsend in any way?

Wat. In fact, this whole thread. Wat.

It must be the look in Dev's eye (with 3 star like reflections), in the Ki booklet with the grey aliens, I had to ask him about his association with aliens. I did it in a PM though.

http://www.taopage.org/nondoing.html

wooooooooooooooh weeeeeeeeeeeeey

"GET DOWN THERE... AND PROBE... MY BUDDY'S... ASS!!"

Sorry I can just imagine Dev reporting back to the mothership, though:


COMMANDER: Ah, Representative Townsend. How goes the work on Earth? Have you succeeded in enlightening the humans on the transcendental glory of symphonic pop-inflected metal?

DEV: Err...

COMMANDER: Have you converted the masses to the cathartic and uniting power of heavy music, so we may live among them as equals? (Chuckles) Did you manage to convince them you're God yet?

DEV: Dude, I was drunk when I said that. I told you.

COMMANDER: I know, I know. Just pulling your prick there a minute, son. But seriously, how are things going?

DEV: Okay, I guess...

COMMANDER: Just okay? Surely you've distributed aural documents to all the indigenous lifeforms on the planet?

DEV: The CDs? Yeah, we've sold a few. I suppose it's just been a bit more difficult than we thought.

COMMANDER: In what way?

DEV: They just don't seem to get it. A lot of people are into it, but most of them won't pay attention. They're still out fighting each other, being greedy and repressed, buying Limp Bizkit records -

COMMANDER: What? Don't they know that the Galactic High Council placed a ban on giving Fred Durst money under any circumstances?

DEV: He's still a rock star here!

COMMANDER: Mecha-Christ on a hyper camel...

DEV: Look man, it'll still work. There's a lot of smart guys here, and the sales are going up. Strapping's doing well. But I don't know, the rest of 'em just won't catch up with the universe. Shit, skullets aren't even fashionable round here -

COMMANDER: Whoa! Hold the goddamn phone a second: You telling me they don't even rock the skullet? Didn't they even FIND the 11th Commandment?

DEV: Dude, they think I look 'funny'.

PAUSE.

COMMANDER: Fuck it, let's invade. Fancy being World President?

DEV: Do I get to smoke pot on the job?

COMMANDER: Sure.

DEV: Cool. Oh, and can you bring some more pneumatic coolant? Gene's feet have been overheating lately...

That. Is. Awesome.

All are God.

the first thing of sense ive heard here yet...


apart from that hell funny dialogue.. tho on to read the rest of the thread...

OK, let me say this once and for all.

OF COURSE I'M NOT AN ALIEN!

jeez...

I like the metaphor of aliens because to me, it insinuates how far from our source we find ourselves in todays society. To not know ourselves, we are alien to ourselves.

I have 1) Never been 'abducted' 2) Never had a 'close encounter'

I am into the imagry, because when we find ourselves so isolated from each other based on hurt and fear, we want to assume that humanity is different than we see day to day, we approach our fear and sensitivity in a way that makes us feel that we are ALONE, when in fact, we're all the same, every one of us. We have different quirks and idiocincracies that make multitudes of different personalities, some beautiful, some terrible...but ultimately, we're evolutionarily PRIMATES at this point, revelling in our own self importance. We are, however, the missing link between the future and now, so every thing we do ultimately affects our future selves. Infinity leads me to believe that time is an illusion based on our projections.

And hey, our nature seems to lie in our duality.

And God?

...first person perspective as far as I'm concerned...am I 'God' in the biblical sense? Christ no...as far as I'm concerned, that doesn't amount to anything, I'm not an athiest or agnostic or dogmatic, things just are. By focussing on my puny, easily confused and lead intellects, I find it hard to accept beauty, pain, and whatnot without truly understanding it...and thats crazy arrogant.

Yeah, I took acid years ago and thought I was 'the center of the universe' but hey, there's not many people who haven't had that experience on psychedelic drugs, and many DO NOT come back from there...the first person perspective though, or 'I', is the common tie between us all, so sure, I'm the center of the universe, but so are you, and you, and you, and that rock, and my fucking cat. To some poor souls, mental illness is fate, to many though, it's a choice, because as sensitive, headstrong folks it's ultimately a place to hide without being culpable. There's things you can do. Go see a doctor, go to a therapist, lift some weights... whatever.

my opinion of myself is that I am slightly above average intelligence, I have fierce social anxiety, and I'm a VERY basic person. Food? ...check, Sex? ...check, Sleep?...check. What do I do with my time? ...music. Why? Because thats where my decisions have lead me.

I don't discredit conspiracy theories, aliens, government cover ups etc...but honestly...what can I do about it? ZIPPO...so until it's in my face, so be it.

I spend my days with chores, work, exercise, a bit of meditation, and if I'm lucky, I get laid once in a while. ...Then I'm good.

I find it hard to get behind a race of creatures that would go billions of light years to glean information from a species who has 90% of their problems solved by copulating once a week.

That said, quantum mechanics...blah blah blah...I believe we're here to understand what it means to be HUMAN, or else we just keep coming back till we DO get it. I used to like to think I was an alien because I'm socially retarded and hope that actually isn't the case and I'm just different. And sure, I'm different, but so are you...and the other people out there. It turns out, that was another place to hide...which was great because theres a HUGE support network for that.

The face of God in my opinion is the beauty of a nice day or a subtle gesture. I think we just have to be quiet to hear it.

Animals know, and go about their business without questioning it, so do insects and trees...theyre too busy being what they are to worry too much about WHY they are and if they're doing a good enough job at it...(and if they'll be punished after the fact.)

So to finish here, yeah, I've said TONS of stupid shit in my lyrics, please understand that I question everything and know NOTHING, and as I get older, I know even less. Hey I'm a Christian! Hey I'm a Satanist! Hey I'm a Canadian! Hey, I'm defined by my hair!

But the rain and the sun are beautiful, and I love pineapple.

Read an Alan Watts book soon, listen to Frank Lloyd Wright.

Love and eternal stupidity,
Devin Townsend.

2nd thing of immense sense ive read on here... probly the most sensible thing ive ever read...... not an alien but what a fucking genius...!
only if 'my' meer mortal mind could use words so effectively!!

DEV: Err...

COMMANDER: Have you converted the masses to the cathartic and uniting power of heavy music, so we may live among them as equals? (Chuckles) Did you manage to convince them you're God yet?

DEV: Dude, I was drunk when I said that. I told you.

This post from 2006 sounds a lot like some of the convos on ZTO, I wonder if it inspired Dev at all

The face of God in my opinion is the beauty of a nice day or a subtle gesture. I think we just have to be quiet to hear it.

SHIT YEAH NEGRO.

DEV: Look man, it'll still work. There's a lot of smart guys here, and the sales are going up. Strapping's doing well. But I don't know, the rest of 'em just won't catch up with the universe. Shit, skullets aren't even fashionable round here -

COMMANDER: Whoa! Hold the goddamn phone a second: You telling me they don't even rock the skullet? Didn't they even FIND the 11th Commandment?

DEV: Dude, they think I look 'funny'.

I laughed so hard, I almost puked.