Talk about whatever you want to here, but stay correct
#199565 by Amber
Wed May 27, 2009 8:58 am
BrunoN wrote:
Zyprexa wrote:At least I can take some consolation in the fact that she's a morbidly obese 36 year-old virgin who binge-eats in her car at lunchtime, lives with her mother and celebrates her cats' birthday. They really should have fired her a long time ago, she's on sick leave 90% of the time due to various health implications being as fat as she is has.


Damn, almost like me. Have to complete some things from the list but I'm working on it (hard).

But srsly, what's with all the frustrated teachers. Thre's so many of them being kind of totally broken human wrecks and neurotics. In profession where they're should be glaring examples of humanity and inspiration for youth. The word "teacher" is kinda tinted with prestige, has sort of aura of respect on it (at least in Polish) - until you see average member of the profession. That's between WTF and un-awesome.


Teachers aren't very well respected over here, espeically in secondary schools. (11-16 yr olds) It's not uncommon for some of the teachers to go through abuse as much as other pupils, but the only thing they can do is issue detention, or get them suspended for awhile. It's a bit of a messed up system.
There was a horrid story awhile ago of a 14/5 year old I think, who abused her so much (Physically, and sexually) that when she walked into the teachers lounge, they didn't recognise her.

Seriously fucked up stuff... Makes me sicked and despair for the world sometimes. ):
#199575 by Abydost
Wed May 27, 2009 10:09 am
Yeah not much respect for teachers here either, but depends on the teacher, for example we had absolutely no respect for them when we were 13-16 but after we got older we got less silly.

Anyhoo. I keep detuning my Schecter when I do my chainsaw massacre rawr triplets. Silly.
#199580 by Aden
Wed May 27, 2009 10:56 am
Does anybody here use the term "Djent"?

I only recently heard of it... Its weird. I can understand where its coming from, but still...
#199584 by Devy, spelled Devy!
Wed May 27, 2009 11:41 am
^^ I haven't heard it, and don't really know what it means - I had to google it :P
Seems like an onomatopoeia type word - like maybe a word to match the sound of a deep, crunchy palm muted riff? Or something like that. That's a funny word though, I'll have to throw it into casual conversation sometime; people will look at me like WTF? :?


Another word related thought:
I was listening to NPR this morning, and on Forum they had a linguist/etymologist on as the guest. People would call in and ask about where phrases come from that had entered into colloquial speech... words that were kind of inane/filler. And they didn't address this phrase but it's been bugging me for forever:

"I could care less."
"I couldn't care less."

People use them interchangeably, all the time. I do it myself actually.
But usually the phrase is used to imply that something is so unimportant to you that you don't care about it in the least. But to "care less" means that there's some degree of caring there, and that 'caring' could only diminish. But to 'not care less' means you've already lost all 'caring' about the subject. So they're not really interchangeable I guess, but the difference is not that important, people get the idea *shrug*

Right right? Am I missing something in my understanding?
#199587 by soundsofentropy
Wed May 27, 2009 12:29 pm
Devy, spelled Devy! wrote:Another word related thought:
I was listening to NPR this morning, and on Forum they had a linguist/etymologist on as the guest. People would call in and ask about where phrases come from that had entered into colloquial speech... words that were kind of inane/filler. And they didn't address this phrase but it's been bugging me for forever:

"I could care less."
"I couldn't care less."

People use them interchangeably, all the time. I do it myself actually.
But usually the phrase is used to imply that something is so unimportant to you that you don't care about it in the least. But to "care less" means that there's some degree of caring there, and that 'caring' could only diminish. But to 'not care less' means you've already lost all 'caring' about the subject. So they're not really interchangeable I guess, but the difference is not that important, people get the idea *shrug*

Right right? Am I missing something in my understanding?


Nope, you're not missing anything. It bothers me, too, simply because I'm obnoxious about those sorts of things. I usually ask people "so you care?" when they tell me that they "could care less." It bugs me just a little bit more than people saying "different than" instead of "different from," or using the wrong homonym--it just connotes incompetence, and I know I'm being pedantic for making a fuss about it, but it's fucking irritating. Anyway, language is always evolving; new things are becoming acceptable, etc., so I suppose there's not much use in preserving the current "rules" of the English language. It just bothers me that people can't think hard enough to properly express themselves, and feel that they should spit out a muddled slew of failed language. But as you said, as long as I get the point, it's not that big of a deal.
#199598 by Aden
Wed May 27, 2009 1:57 pm
Devy, spelled Devy! wrote:^^ I haven't heard it, and don't really know what it means - I had to google it :P
Seems like an onomatopoeia type word - like maybe a word to match the sound of a deep, crunchy palm muted riff? Or something like that. That's a funny word though, I'll have to throw it into casual conversation sometime; people will look at me like WTF? :?


Its used to describe a type of guitar tone during deep palm muted riffs i think... For example, Meshuggah.
But I just prefer to call them kind of "Metallic" guitar tones.

I thought "Djent" was pretty weird at first, but i've gotten a bit more used to it now. I'll probably end up using the word myself eventually, lol.
#199612 by AlucardXIX
Wed May 27, 2009 2:47 pm
Aden wrote:Does anybody here use the term "Djent"?

I only recently heard of it... Its weird. I can understand where its coming from, but still...


I used to frequent the forum where that term originated. The Meshuggah forums.(bunch of self-righteous, overly conceited douche bags btw) Just listen to the intro of Corridor of Chameleons if you want the best idea of "djent" And yes the D is silent haha.
#199666 by Devy, spelled Devy!
Wed May 27, 2009 10:35 pm
soundsofentropy wrote:
Devy, spelled Devy! wrote:Another word related thought:
I was listening to NPR this morning, and on Forum they had a linguist/etymologist on as the guest. People would call in and ask about where phrases come from that had entered into colloquial speech... words that were kind of inane/filler. And they didn't address this phrase but it's been bugging me for forever:

"I could care less."
"I couldn't care less."

People use them interchangeably, all the time. I do it myself actually.
But usually the phrase is used to imply that something is so unimportant to you that you don't care about it in the least. But to "care less" means that there's some degree of caring there, and that 'caring' could only diminish. But to 'not care less' means you've already lost all 'caring' about the subject. So they're not really interchangeable I guess, but the difference is not that important, people get the idea *shrug*

Right right? Am I missing something in my understanding?


Nope, you're not missing anything. It bothers me, too, simply because I'm obnoxious about those sorts of things. I usually ask people "so you care?" when they tell me that they "could care less." It bugs me just a little bit more than people saying "different than" instead of "different from," or using the wrong homonym--it just connotes incompetence, and I know I'm being pedantic for making a fuss about it, but it's fucking irritating. Anyway, language is always evolving; new things are becoming acceptable, etc., so I suppose there's not much use in preserving the current "rules" of the English language. It just bothers me that people can't think hard enough to properly express themselves, and feel that they should spit out a muddled slew of failed language. But as you said, as long as I get the point, it's not that big of a deal.



Ok, it's good to know that I'm not just looking way too far into the phrase. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and not harp on grammar and stuff... but double negatives piss me off so much. That's just unforgivable. :roll:
And I understand 'bling' is now in the OED :shock: :shock: :shock:
#199671 by djskrimp
Wed May 27, 2009 11:46 pm
Devy, spelled Devy! wrote:
soundsofentropy wrote:
Devy, spelled Devy! wrote:Another word related thought:
I was listening to NPR this morning, and on Forum they had a linguist/etymologist on as the guest. People would call in and ask about where phrases come from that had entered into colloquial speech... words that were kind of inane/filler. And they didn't address this phrase but it's been bugging me for forever:

"I could care less."
"I couldn't care less."

People use them interchangeably, all the time. I do it myself actually.
But usually the phrase is used to imply that something is so unimportant to you that you don't care about it in the least. But to "care less" means that there's some degree of caring there, and that 'caring' could only diminish. But to 'not care less' means you've already lost all 'caring' about the subject. So they're not really interchangeable I guess, but the difference is not that important, people get the idea *shrug*

Right right? Am I missing something in my understanding?


Nope, you're not missing anything. It bothers me, too, simply because I'm obnoxious about those sorts of things. I usually ask people "so you care?" when they tell me that they "could care less." It bugs me just a little bit more than people saying "different than" instead of "different from," or using the wrong homonym--it just connotes incompetence, and I know I'm being pedantic for making a fuss about it, but it's fucking irritating. Anyway, language is always evolving; new things are becoming acceptable, etc., so I suppose there's not much use in preserving the current "rules" of the English language. It just bothers me that people can't think hard enough to properly express themselves, and feel that they should spit out a muddled slew of failed language. But as you said, as long as I get the point, it's not that big of a deal.



Ok, it's good to know that I'm not just looking way too far into the phrase. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and not harp on grammar and stuff... but double negatives piss me off so much. That's just unforgivable. :roll:
And I understand 'bling' is now in the OED :shock: :shock: :shock:


Irregardless.... :wink: :twisted: :D
#199688 by Zyprexa
Thu May 28, 2009 3:14 am
Devy, spelled Devy! wrote:"I could care less."
"I couldn't care less."

...

the phrase is used to imply that something is so unimportant to you that you don't care about it in the least. But to "care less" means that there's some degree of caring there, and that 'caring' could only diminish. But to 'not care less' means you've already lost all 'caring' about the subject. So they're not really interchangeable I guess, but the difference is not that important, people get the idea *shrug*

Right right? Am I missing something in my understanding?

Generally speaking, colloquialisms do not demand to make correct linguistic sense so long as a point is made. How is "break a leg" an implication of good luck? Surely if you tried so hard that you broke a leg you'd be unable to perform any longer and whatever you're doing would be ruined? But you're right, and people saying "I could care less" makes me yell at them in the street. Haha, not really. Saying that you couldn't care less means that any cares you have for the thing are so small that there could not possibly be less of them. Your cares for it are at their minimum capacity. Saying that you could care less means that you don't quite care so little that you couldn't care less. If that makes any sense. :)

soundsofentropy wrote:double negatives piss me off so much.

I think they're rather beautiful when used in a contextually correct matter.
Thomas Hardy - " 'I do not promise overmuch, child overmuch. Just neutral-tinted haps and such' you said to minds like mine. Wise warning, for your credits sake; which I for one failed not to take and thus endured such pain and ache as each year might assign." But then again I occasionally text people in rhyming couplets and answer regular questions in iambic pentameter. So I'll just shut the fuck up.

djskrimp wrote:Irregardless.... :wink: :twisted: :D

You just made me shudder violently.
#199750 by Devy, spelled Devy!
Thu May 28, 2009 9:47 am
djskrimp wrote:
Irregardless.... :wink: :twisted: :D

Oohhh that's a tasty one :twisted:

These are real words, but how about 'flammable' and 'inflammable?' Those trip people up a lot. I have to think about it sometimes.

But then there's 'explainable. vs. 'inexplicable.' That one gets shat on too.
#199759 by soundsofentropy
Thu May 28, 2009 10:59 am
soundsofentropy wrote:double negatives piss me off so much.

I think they're rather beautiful when used in a contextually correct matter.
Thomas Hardy - " 'I do not promise overmuch, child overmuch. Just neutral-tinted haps and such' you said to minds like mine. Wise warning, for your credits sake; which I for one failed not to take and thus endured such pain and ache as each year might assign." But then again I occasionally text people in rhyming couplets and answer regular questions in iambic pentameter. So I'll just shut the fuck up.

I didn't write that. Fix your quotes! *REPLACE smiley for pouting*
#199990 by AlucardXIX
Fri May 29, 2009 3:59 pm
A customer presented me with a Catch 22 today. Granted, it was solvable in the end, but his logic/wording of it was a Catch 22.

(please note, I was technically off work by the time I got this call, so I was on my way home and forced to go do this)

I was told his A/C was not working, so I called to make sure he was home. He tells me it is working, but it's making a noise. I asked him if it could wait until Monday, his answer was "Yes it could, but if no one shows up today I'm writing the Better Business Bureau"

So therein lies the Catch 22. I still went and did the call, it took all of 7 minutes...against my will of course.

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