dont fuck with bach bitch ^_^

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1194169/Set-controls-heart-Sun.html

Some people have probably heard of it before... But I hadn't, so...

dont fuck with bach bitch ^_^

Not fucking with, just adding things that don't have to be permanent... I think? I dunno?

Just stick a pipe-organ through distortion then I'll be happy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1194169/Set-controls-heart-Sun.html

Some people have probably heard of it before... But I hadn't, so...

That is amazing.... it could change Earth as we know it. Thank you so much for posting that, I'm going to email the link to a bunch of people.
Sidenote: My cousin now lives in Switzerland to work with the CERN super collider. As interested in that as I am, I really couldn't begin to tell you what he does, just his job title alone goes over my head. He's some sort of research physicist, mad scientist genius type... well, not so much the mad scientist; but you get the idea. It blows my mind.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1194169/Set-controls-heart-Sun.html

Some people have probably heard of it before... But I hadn't, so...

That is amazing.... it could change Earth as we know it. Thank you so much for posting that, I'm going to email the link to a bunch of people.
Sidenote: My cousin now lives in Switzerland to work with the CERN super collider. As interested in that as I am, I really couldn't begin to tell you what he does, just his job title alone goes over my head. He's some sort of research physicist, mad scientist genius type... well, not so much the mad scientist; but you get the idea. It blows my mind.

Wooow thats awesome!

I was talking about this machine with my friend... and we thought it was really strange, that a machine that could literally "save the world" (if all this global warming stuff is true)... only gets onto a little news article online. I'd have expected this thing to be front page news, the main story on news channels, and "the talk of the town" everywhere... but instead, all we hear about is the bad stuff.

"Oh... did you hear about that machine?"
"...What machine? Oh that rapid prototyping machine that they've got over the road? Yeah its pretty cool"
"No no no. Not THAT. Theres this machine in a place near Oxford"
"Oh right..."
"Yeah. Its only the biggest step in the technological and scientific history of mankind. Could supply energy for, and in turn pretty much SAVE the whole world."
"Oh cool"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1194169/Set-controls-heart-Sun.html

Some people have probably heard of it before... But I hadn't, so...

Oh man, that is some machine!
How come humans have been so blind, now only at the brink of Mother of all ends (yeah, I am not that optimistic..), we
really gaze (again, they mentioned already the 70s..) to that kinda salvation methods.
Yes, I am calling it a salvation method, because if you imagine what will happen to the kids, who are now like under 10, when
they get used to life like this, and eventually some end to this maniac consumption has to come?
Have they prepared that kinda machines to prevent everything from crashing, or will they blame us for not doing it for them?
I dunno.

But that was awesome!
I wish I had as much money as p. diddy and bill gates, I would kindly donate some to those research people.
Unfortunately, I am not.
I can only cut down my usage of everything, that's the most I can do.
And I am doing it all the time, trying my best.

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That went so serious I just had to stop
Ok, I am back now that my burnt fingers have healed and I am alone at the shop.
Have to do some painting in our kitchen, the cupboards are still missing one layer..
How come the painting stuff never ends?
Every time I think "greeat, now I am ready!", I see something that needs immediate attention from my paint brush.
Why is it so?

I am running out of paint

So let me get this straight. In its current form (JET), it consumes more energy than it produces. In its upcoming form (ITER), they're aiming for break-even. And it's going to take, at the very least, more than 30 years to build one that produces enough energy to be commercially viable. What's the big deal? This doesn't save us from running out of fossil fuels in the short term at all.

Aside from that, I think that the article is a bit one-sided. Surely there have to be downsides to this method, which they just don't pay attention to at all. If it was really that wonderful, amazing and great, I'm sure plenty of organizations and companies would have been willing to invest billions in such projects, a multiple of the current project, in order to get a working one and "save the world" a few decades early.

I call bullshit (at least partially).

[swervedriver]

I think the downsides are mentioned in that article but not emphasized. Building a reactor that can withstand those incredibly extreme conditions is no mean feat, nor is it that easy to heat something to temperatures 10 times hotter than the sun, while at the same time cooling the reactor walls with liquid helium to prevent the whole thing from falling apart. And then of course there's the matter of controlling a reaction where so much energy is involved, both on the input and output side.

They started on such a small scale that the input energy is much less than the output, however it did prove that the concept of fusion power is attainable. What they say now is that it's just a matter of scale-up, so yes, first they're aiming for a break-even situation. Now that the concept is proven to work, I think it's become much easier for research to get financial backing. Scale-up often brings with it some unforeseen problems, especially with uncharted territory such as fusion reactors. That's most likely why it's moving so slow, and also to avoid any (catastrophic) mistakes.

I dunno, I love the concept of clean energy from an abundant resource (deuterium from ocean water). I'm not convinced of solar or wind energy because of their high costs and low efficiencies. Fortunately there's a large coal supply that, combined with clean burning technology, could last us for another 150-200 years or so. By then we should be able to use fusion power... or kill off half the Earth's population and use edible crops for our energy needs.

So let me get this straight. In its current form (JET), it consumes more energy than it produces. In its upcoming form (ITER), they're aiming for break-even. And it's going to take, at the very least, more than 30 years to build one that produces enough energy to be commercially viable. What's the big deal? This doesn't save us from running out of fossil fuels in the short term at all.

Aside from that, I think that the article is a bit one-sided. Surely there have to be downsides to this method, which they just don't pay attention to at all. If it was really that wonderful, amazing and great, I'm sure plenty of organizations and companies would have been willing to invest billions in such projects, a multiple of the current project, in order to get a working one and "save the world" a few decades early.

I call bullshit (at least partially).

Yea, it does mention the downsides, but it's a highly optimistic look at something that has the potential to be absolutely groundbreaking. Fusion is one of the highest energy producing methods, the problems with it are all mentioned in the article: Extreme heat that needs special methods to keep it cool The scaling, making this thing big enough to break even and eventually increase output to much higher than the input.

Obviously, something like this is astounding, I was blown away by that article. I really did not think we had any kind of fusion power anywhere in the world.

It's the swine flu hype in reverse.

Swine flu made people think we were all going to die. Which we did not.

Now this makes people think all of the world's problems have been solved in an instance. Which they have not.


I'm not saying it's all lies, I'm saying the article is biased, way too positive. Besides, fusion is hardly a new technique. As the article states, it's been researched since the 70's, and ever since, everyone has known that it will eventually solve our power problems.
A couple of years ago there was a kid - I don't think he was even 18 years old - who built in fusion reactor. On his own. In his parents' basement. Much like JET it consumed energy rather than generated it, but it was a working fusion reactor, in his basement. So I kind of fail to see the news value right now.

[swervedriver]

The news value is that they're actively trying to tackle the problem of getting less energy out than what is put in. You may consider all the rest as page filler, but the fact that they're working on a scale-up version which has a serious possibility to reach this break-even point and move towards efficiently producing energy is news.

So far, JET, the most advanced and largest fusion reactor on Earth, is only efficient enough to return 65 per cent of the power put into it, and can only sustain the reaction for a few seconds. But if Culham's simulations are accurate, ITER will produce up to ten times the amount of energy put in, for periods of more than 400 seconds.

Dr Romanelli explains: 'The ITER machine is not that far beyond what we've built at JET. It will be about eight times the volume, and about three times the power - that makes us confident we will achieve what we want.

'Our goal is to reach a point of break-even, where the energy we get out is equal to the energy put in. All our research, and our work with other reactors like this, has shown that it's simply a matter of scale. Our machine is now fully devoted to testing design choices for ITER.

'This October, we will shut down the reactor and remove its carbon tiles, to install new beryllium tiles on the wall and tungsten tiles on the floor, where most of the heat escapes from the chamber. If we are able to demonstrate this works, ITER will perhaps begin being built at an earlier stage.'

VIKTOR SCHAUBERGER People, look at his designs, what did he do with hydrogen? It's old old old old old news. Ancient even.
Implosion is where it's at. Hope it's put to GOOOOOD use. Great info, glad to see it posted here.

Set the controls for the heart of the sun, great Pink Floyd song, any one followed the links from the 'black holes' post?

Finished the lyrics and music for a song (to be "released" by mine and a mates comedic band).. based on a "Nightmare" (it wasn't too scary looking back, but I awoke from it feeling like i'd had a nightmare) I had when I was a kid, where I was flying on a broomstick over some eerie, murky, gloomy looking houses/gardens with a few short, fat, green witches staring up at me. But then I saw one throwing poor Pink and Baby Blue teddies (I'm straight I swear) over a fence, which angered me. So I flew down, and saved the... night. (Can't remember fighting the Witch, but I remember throwing the teddies back over to the right side of the fence).

lol...

Happy trails to Farrah Fawcett and Michael Jackson.

FINALLY he died