I fucking love Skeksis. I want to marry it, have sex with it, have some children with it and raise a whole family of Skeksii.

I almost want to make that my signature to be honest.

Your all wrong. BE is the best POS album, and if you don't agree, come on down here and I'll try to convince you otherwise.

Looking pointedly and specifically at you, Steph. What you got?

Your all wrong. BE is the best POS album, and if you don't agree, come on down here and I'll try to convince you otherwise.

Looking pointedly and specifically at you, Steph. What you got?

You're wrong.

BE's fabulous though. The LIVE version, particularly the DVD. Plus, Daniel is hawt.

hey!
I have random thoughts!
They are random.
I will let you into my deepest mind by telling few of them:

- I saw two same models of the ibanez bass I want.
Still I prefer the other over the other.
Even though they are the same.

- I keep thinking about my dream where a guy fell off fro a ski lift and smashed into some rocks below.
I heard the sound of human body smashing in my dream.
I can tell you that it was not sweet.
After I got to this guy, I found out that his ski suit was all filled up with his blood, and some ambulance worker
said to my walkie-talkie that "go away, you can't do anything for him anymore, look at him".
And then the guy looked at me, and died. After that, I got up and decided to ski down, but suddenly the snow turned into poo.
Can someone explain this?

- I can tell you though that I am sweeter than ever.
I think it's this brown normal looking hair that has made me more polite and top worker.
But it has also made me use jeans.
Regular jeans.
It's so weird!
Before this, I have worn jeans many years ago

- When I see Morten, all I think in english, comes out with a voice of Goldmember (from Austin Powers & Goldmember).
Beat that!

- I can tell you though that I am sweeter than ever.
I think it's this brown normal looking hair that has made me more polite and top worker.
But it has also made me use jeans.
Regular jeans.
It's so weird!
Before this, I have worn jeans many years ago

- When I see Morten, all I think in english, comes out with a voice of Goldmember (from Austin Powers & Goldmember).
Beat that!

I demand pics of the first one.

And that is hilarious. When Morten is in the IRC I just think of why there arent lolcats or "newfags" flying around everywhere.

Sarai you're insane and it's absolutely fantastic.

Your all wrong. BE is the best POS album, and if you don't agree, come on down here and I'll try to convince you otherwise.

You didn't ask me but I've liked POS since before I liked Dev; probably for five or six years by now so I'm going to say that while BE is fantastic, I like Remedy Lane best as an album because of the concept it addresses, and how well it does it. It's tries to connect how the past experiences in one's life can influences present choices. I think.

1. Of Two Beginnings is a fantastic song, but moreover the lyrics are really emphatic and to the point. Two children (12 and 10) are in a hotel room bed; the boy is contemplating the fact that she's two whole years older than him and while he just loves lying there with the warmth of her body against him, she asks him if he has any experience sexually. Silly 12 year old, of course he hasn't. He wasn't even thinking about that until you said it. But now he's thinking about it and it's making him feel differently about things. Before, he was just enjoying the moment but now it seems as though he's supposed to be thinking about sexuality and confusing issues like that. What a moment-ruiner. Pfft.

2. Ending Theme sees different person trying to distinguish between happiness in himself and lust which makes him feel a semblance of happiness when he's with a woman. I particularly like the spoken stanza; especially "confusing zest with the joy of being blessed with the bliss of self-escape as we kiss?". It is nice to stop thinking and worrying and get out of your own head to just enjoy the moment for a while. But the song ends in "to be honest I don't know what I'm looking for... lying here, watching you leave through that door." Which made me sort of wonder if this self-escape was becoming a permanent feature in him; lust and momentary lapses in rational thought are perhaps leaving in their wake a vacuous shell of a person.

3. Fandandgo is about two people simultaneously; "she is intimacy" and "he is sharpness of mind". Their differences only bring them closer together, but they still can't escape from their pasts in their unity. He remains closed and questioning, she remains "an object of grown men's desire". Of course, she can't get him to open up and he still wants her body; but it's because he loves her and he just doesn't know how to show her this. They're dancing throughout this song in a sort of flurry of subconscious thought, "live and you will find the answers" seems to be the key to their flaws.

4. Trace of Blood tells of Daniel's wife's miscarriage, according to an interview with him. It's an unbelievably sad song, he describes the scene in the hospital during the initial stages of her stay as "Three young souls in misery", but when the pregnancy is discovered to be over he repeats it as "Two young souls in misery. Missing you." Missing serves a double "without you" as in "you are missing" purpose as well as the fact that he misses the child. I think the beauty and sadness of the song is summed up by "I never knew your name but I will miss you just the same, I was to live for you I lost the will to live at all the day you came..."

5. This Heart of Mine embodies somebody watching their love sleeping, thinking about growing old with them. I like the circularity of it, beginning and ending with "I lie awake watching your shoulders"... It's quite soppy and very nice.

6. It's hard to say what Thorn Crown is really about, it seems like somebody is daydreaming about their insecurities and trying to find somewhere he fits in. I guess finding your place in the world is really important, if you don't find somebody you can be yourself with or somewhere you can feel comfortable being then things are probably pretty sad. "If you'd just let him in... He would love, he would grow... Maybe he's difficult but he's beautiful; Wild at heart, troubled mind - torn apart, seeking his kind."

7. Undertow, on the other hand; describes a person longing to break free and drift with the current. Maybe you've found your place but you want to try something new? You WANT the dirt on your hands, you want to get hurt and feel frightened. "Let me fade into that pitch-black velvet night."

8. Rope Ends is a really striking song; I went through a few months where my walking to school music consisted of this and a few other POS songs on a loop because it's so heartfelt and meaningful and all that sad shit. It's really self explanatory, listen to it mofo. A 20 year-old girl is contemplating suicide. She has children with two different men and is in a loveless marriage for the money, "she is too young for feeling old" and has failed her attempts to kill herself already "the shower chain broke. Her neck hurts." In general just a very fucking sad piece of music. I think the most poignant line in this is "alas the subte irony in shortering life with an extension lead".

9. Chain Sling is my second favourite song on the album. I'd love to see them perform this live (or to see them live in general ). It's about letting the person you love go because you love them and you know you're not what they want. It's about being born alone and dying alone, the pains of relationships ending and the beauty of them ending. I think the title "chain sling" is very representative of the bonds relationships can have, the freedom it restricts...

10. Dryad of the Wood, the lyrics seem to be about how blind forgiveness is a notion which is alien to anyone who does not understand the concept of love. Really pretty melody to this one.

11. Remedy Lane again is a song about questioning love; its definition and attributes.

12. Jesus this album is full of love! Waking every God is back in a hotel room from the beginning I think, the boy is trying to explain to the girl (and himself, to an extent) what love does to him. He wants to understand why he can't feel this alone, he doesn't know if it's just a problem with him. "Wishing I was stronger; wishing I was whole, wishing I was someone that I'm not." And his "anxiety" at his inability to be self-sustaining in this ecstasy is visible to her too.

13. Second Love is the timeline of the children in the opening song's relationship, summed up in the verse "We are eleven and she is the love of my life, But one week from now she will turn her back on me, Four years from now she will give me hope, then sleep with my best friend, Five years from now it is the two of us but by then there is nothing, left of this aching love and this soaring love. But I don't know that now. Because we are eleven and she is the love of my life." Having something so precious so young essentially ruined his life, ruined his perceptions of what love is about and what love does to someone. "I want you to know that I can't sleep anymore..." It's beautiful.

14. This is what the entire album was leading up to; a culmination of all the events throughout the previous songs. I can't even describe how it makes me feel. You have to listen to it. Listen to it now. If it's the only POS song you ever listen to in your life. Especially the last proper verse... It makes me die a little inside. I cried the first time I heard it. And then continued to listen to it several times a day for the next three years without tiring of it. Now I listen to at least once a week. It never, ever gets old. It is my fifth favourite song ever.

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AND I REMEMBER WHEN YOU SAID YOU'D BEEN UNDER HIM...
I was surprised to feel such PAAAIN.
And all those years of being faithful to yooooou
In spite the hunger running through my veins
AND I HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO CALM THINGS DOWN
SWALLOW DOWN, SWALLOW DOWN.
It's just another small thorn in my crown.
BUT SUDDENLY ONE DAY THERE IS JUST TOO MUCH BLOOD IN MY EYES
And I had to take this walk down Remedy Lane of the "when"s and "whyyyyy"s...

Y'know, I'm pretty sure Beyond the Pale is about paedophilia. "She's so young so why don't I feel free now that she is here under me." The connection between him being in a relationship so young and trying to hurt the one who hurt him by allowing somebody her age to experience what he experienced back in the beginning of the relationship, but at his hands instead of his girlfriend's. He tries to feel the freedom he felt in the beginning, but it's not there anymore. The innocence is gone.

The innocence is gone.

Innocence Gone is a hell of a song by Darkane.

No matter how completely off topic this post is, it's true.

And by the way, Prexa, I've been listening to that song Rope Ends you just posted. I have to say a lot of it intrigued me quite a bit, but I just get so tired of the over projected vocals. Starts to remind me of Dream Theater or power metal...=/

Yeah, Leech hates that too. I think it adds to the intensity, especially when you're really adamant about putting your point across. It'd be great if in real life you could yell your argument at somebody and it would be accepted as more emphatic! His growls leave a lot to be desired as well, but they're not so much growls as a different way of singing. A way of singing that makes him sound like he has a bit of a sore throat. Nobody's perfect!

So they kind of sound like old Katatonia rough vocals?

Your all wrong. BE is the best POS album, and if you don't agree, come on down here and I'll try to convince you otherwise.

Looking pointedly and specifically at you, Steph. What you got?

You're wrong.

BE's fabulous though. The LIVE version, particularly the DVD. Plus, Daniel is hawt.

I saw BE at the record store! It was even in it's own impenetrable, hard plastic box - as not to be handled by the plebeians who frequent the store I really wanted to buy it, but I didn't want to buy something blindly. That's why I come here, and bug everyone for opinions! Which are all good BTW
Gotta agree with that last statement, Blueraja

You didn't ask me but I've liked POS since before I liked Dev; probably for five or six years by now so I'm going to say that while BE is fantastic, I like Remedy Lane best as an album because of the concept it addresses, and how well it does it. It's tries to connect how the past experiences in one's life can influences present choices. I think.

Good to hear, since I just bought Remedy Lane :]
Can't wait to hear it; love them or hate them, it seems that with all these recent posts - PoS strikes a chord with people.

"M.A.N is very proud to declare to be the very first metal band ever to have incorporated what we call the 'Full Scale Quarter Tone System' into our music — and metal music genre on the whole, resulting in the upcoming album 'Massive, Audio, Nerve' by M.A.N. 'Full Scale Quarter Tone Systems' [our own term] means that there are 24 quarter semi tones, instead of 12 'ordinary' semi tones, within reach of an octave [1200 cent]. This has led to new kinds of expressions and possibilities that have never been heard before"

...fair enough, but you sure you're not just trying too hard to be "crazy and original" for the sake of it?

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Nah actually, some pretty cool stuff there.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=126070

Listen to the clip posted there for the quarter tones. See what you think...

Your all wrong. BE is the best POS album, and if you don't agree, come on down here and I'll try to convince you otherwise.

Looking pointedly and specifically at you, Steph. What you got?

I was down there Sunday....I heard no convincing. The Perfect Element 1 is the best. Sorry.

K, Steph. Now we're fighting. Like this

Also DsD is going to have a harem of musician manslaves if she rules the world.

Also the forums have a new trend of making posts that are tl;dr.

...fair enough, but you sure you're not just trying too hard to be "crazy and original" for the sake of it?

Nah actually, some pretty cool stuff there.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=126070

Listen to the clip posted there for the quarter tones. See what you think...

At least they are trying to do something original. As opposed to other bands who "go back to their roots" aka: "lets make an album that sounds like our old stuff to appease long time fans"

M.A.N. isnt the most technical, or musically insane band. Rob Guz is a hell of a guitarist who definitely likes to try things in a different way. I have a lot of respect for them, even if they do dress and look a bit...off.

EDIT: After listening to the new clips, I can say I'm glad Rob is finally showing that he can play his guitar in their music. The solo at the end sounds like something a sitar player would be doing. Dude is creative as fuck, I cant wait to hear the finished product and I'd like to see how he does this stuff.

K, Steph. Now we're fighting. Like this

Also DsD is going to have a harem of musician manslaves if she rules the world.

Also the forums have a new trend of making posts that are tl;dr.

Wow, a PoS battle - these guys must be good. And now Dan is in on this debate, eh?
Kristoffer played on BE, correct? I just checked wiki, it looks like he played on most of their CD's - perfect. I've watched videos of him on youtube, and I'm sold - I think he's great. Plus his playing with Dark Suns was impressive as well - I'm a definitely a fan now. Also, has anyone heard Dial? I read that's what Kristoffer is up to these days.

Correct about the manslaves - and you're first on my list, Islands. I'm coming for you