The place to speak about Dev's current projects, and everything yet to come
#235369 by swervedriver
Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:09 am
I see, it's a bit of a difference when you reverse that correlation. :)

Anyway, would be interesting to see how that map looked 50 years ago.
#235377 by Tyroshai
Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:39 am
nogster wrote:
swervedriver wrote:So you're saying religious people are poor, stupid, uneducated and oppressed? Wow.


no im not saying that.
look at the facts.
barring the U.S. the most developed, most educated nations in the world are generally the least religious.

im saying that those that are poor, oppressed and uneducated are more inclined to be religious as it gives them hope.

most people that are religious, are by default. they were born into a family that practiced said religion and thus, were raised to believe in it.
most people i know of that are religious, have never really questioned why they believe.
obviously there are exceptions to every rule.
thats fine though. . as long as these beliefs are not enforced onto me and my family, each to their own


Each to their own indeed.
Though I fail to see how a persons education or financial/material wealth can influence their belief in religion.

I've struck up friendships in the past with a couple of American families who are hardcore Catholics, and I mean hardcore. They're financially stable and have a decent home and social life. But they weren't brought up as Catholics. They weren't brought up or conditioned to follow any religion at all. Simply just found their path I guess. I can see the point you're getting at here, but I think you're generalising far too much, plus there's no proven demographic to back that up.

Again, the local vicar in my town originally claimed asylum here from South Africa. In the local newspaper, Rev. Mudmulla has a regular column where he often recounts his childhood living just outside of Johannesburg, making matchsticks for the equivalent of 4p per day. And he 'found' religion in his late twenties after previously being a devout atheist.

Who knows. That's just my two cents regarding my personal experiences. Religion is rife everywhere, a person doesn't need to fit a certain category in order to believe in whatever as long as they're of free will and choice, they can think for themselves, surely?

If you are 'poor', destitute or generally having a shit time of it, why would you be more inclined to believe in a God who lets that happen to you?
And on the flipside, if you're wealthy and have all you could ever hope for in life...Why bother believing in a God anyway if you've got all you need/want?

This whole point is gonna keep going round in circles and will probably end up in a pointless argument, I'm out.

Lastly...BloodstockBloodstockBloodstock!
#235400 by Nevaeh
Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:08 pm
This whole point is gonna keep going round in circles and will probably end up in a pointless argument


Indeed.

Bloodstock looks proper good. If they confirmed Zyklon, Ihsahn, Meshuggah and Faith No More I think it would be the most debauched festival on earth.
Saying that I'm quite tempted to asphyxiwank my way through the Bloodbath set (*dribble*). I wont stop until I see a light coming towards me in the shape of michael hutchence.

Soilwork have a new album out soon - hope the mix is better than their last. Sounded pretty guff.
Any chance of a round two on the mixing table in the future devin?
#235404 by Tyroshai
Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:27 pm
Nevaeh wrote:
I'm quite tempted to asphyxiwank my way through the Bloodbath set.


+1
#235406 by Nevaeh
Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:26 pm
Mikael's girth vocals will sound even better through a plastic bag and breathless debauched elation. I'll be hacking and groaning to the beat of Iesous.
#235408 by Tyroshai
Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:51 pm
Nevaeh wrote:Mikael's girth vocals will sound even better through a plastic bag and breathless debauched elation. I'll be hacking and groaning to the beat of Iesous.


I agree. If I had a penis of my own I'd be doing the same. Doesn't have the same effect without.
If I see you down the front and you've not collapsed in a carbon dioxide-fuelled stupor at that point, we'll sort out a safeword as being unconscious would most definately ruin the experience. Don'tchathink?
#235410 by Nevaeh
Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:06 pm
If you find me in a carbon dioxide fuelled fit, just make sure my monkey brain isn't hanging out the side of my thong. Push 'em back in with a pencil or something.
#235411 by Tyroshai
Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:11 pm
Nevaeh wrote:If you find me in a carbon dioxide fuelled fit, just make sure my monkey brain isn't hanging out the side of my thong. Push 'em back in with a pencil or something.


It shall be done.
#235494 by Deathcom7000
Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:02 pm
I saw Devin play in Pheonix. He looked like he was having a good time, but man, that audience was being so... disrespectful? People kept yelling at him when he was setting up, SCREAMING at him. He was kind enough to address some questions, and I don't blame him for not sticking around to chat with people after.
#235541 by sarai-chan
Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:07 pm
I am not going to participate in the religion part, so I'll skip it right away.

But my thoughts about meeting musicians or just any person who has inspired you or who you look up to, are
quite the same, at least in this thread.
I've been lucky enough to get to meet many great musicians in past few years, and have kept my cool in some
really "wow" situations, like when I got to meet this great American metal band.
Of course I was hyper excited to go to the show, but I didn't think I would actually meet them.
But when the invitation came and I had to really go there and shake the fangirl-ism from my shoulders, I was in panic :D
so, I really shook my shoulders and thought about the times when I had been pissed off by "fans" of some sort, and
decided that I wouldn't be the annoying screaming jump-a-jumper fan I too dislike.
Ended up spending quite a time with them, talking about weather ( :D ), music, girls and all that jazz.
And that was the first "real" meeting with musicians I like.
After that I've met tons of more people I couldn't even dream of meeting (Åkerfeldt! :D), and have walked past as many too.
You can really see if someone is in the mood to talk or even blink at the surrounding world, and I think it's best to back off then :D

but with Dev..
I am not sure if I could just let him slip away if I got near.. :twisted:
But the respect towards other people, not just your idols, but even your mom, husband, wife, whoever, is the key to this all.
When someone is on the brink of falling asleep on their feet, suffering from diarrhea or just plain annoyed with the world,
I think you have to respect them and leave them as they are, unless they tell you otherwise :D
But only an autograph and a photo, it isn't that bad, is it? :D (joking)

What I want to say, is so hard to say with my vocabulary, forgive me.
#235580 by djskrimp
Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:19 pm
sarai-chan wrote:I am not going to participate in the religion part, so I'll skip it right away.

But my thoughts about meeting musicians or just any person who has inspired you or who you look up to, are
quite the same, at least in this thread.
I've been lucky enough to get to meet many great musicians in past few years, and have kept my cool in some
really "wow" situations, like when I got to meet this great American metal band.
Of course I was hyper excited to go to the show, but I didn't think I would actually meet them.
But when the invitation came and I had to really go there and shake the fangirl-ism from my shoulders, I was in panic :D
so, I really shook my shoulders and thought about the times when I had been pissed off by "fans" of some sort, and
decided that I wouldn't be the annoying screaming jump-a-jumper fan I too dislike.
Ended up spending quite a time with them, talking about weather ( :D ), music, girls and all that jazz.
And that was the first "real" meeting with musicians I like.
After that I've met tons of more people I couldn't even dream of meeting (Åkerfeldt! :D), and have walked past as many too.
You can really see if someone is in the mood to talk or even blink at the surrounding world, and I think it's best to back off then :D

but with Dev..
I am not sure if I could just let him slip away if I got near.. :twisted:
But the respect towards other people, not just your idols, but even your mom, husband, wife, whoever, is the key to this all.
When someone is on the brink of falling asleep on their feet, suffering from diarrhea or just plain annoyed with the world,
I think you have to respect them and leave them as they are, unless they tell you otherwise :D
But only an autograph and a photo, it isn't that bad, is it? :D (joking)

What I want to say, is so hard to say with my vocabulary, forgive me.


Your vocabulary is perfect. Well said, Sarai.
#235721 by BlueRaja
Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:03 am
sarai-chan wrote:but with Dev..
I am not sure if I could just let him slip away if I got near.. :twisted:


I have. Twice now. I just don't want to bother him.
#235723 by The Dev
Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:23 am
If you find me in a carbon dioxide fuelled fit, just make sure my monkey brain isn't hanging out the side of my thong. Push 'em back in with a pencil or something.



Awesome...
#235730 by WickedBuddhi
Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:09 pm
mEh! wrote:
Octillus wrote: the dude there kept calling me a super-fan. Dude, do you know how awkward that is? Hell


Dude i think younger people like us need something/someone to look up to. Otherwise we will turn up like boring and insecure assholes like that dude being rude to you. It's a part of becoming a man. Persons i look up to, My dad, my old teacher i had as a kid (he died 2 mouths ago..) and Devin. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

Dev, to quote your issue about beeing rude to fans that always stands in your way, it's fully understandable but try be careful with younger people man.. It could really ruin things for them i think.

cheers. :)



I'm getting too old for heroes. Anymore, I just want to surround myself with open minds and positive people.

I can understand situations where someone younger needs something or someone to look up to, whether it is God or a neighbor. 10 years ago, Devin's music was my outlet after my father had passed away. I felt like his music understood to me in ways others did not (Close friends called me a debbie-downer, I was 16). And it helped me cope. But there is a time to put stuff like that aside and look at it from a much bigger perspective. Some people need God, at the time, all I needed was something to help me understand. I thank Devin and his music for that. But I never idolized him.

If you want heroes watch TMZ. :)
#235737 by Octillus
Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:37 pm
WickedBuddhi wrote:
mEh! wrote:
Octillus wrote: the dude there kept calling me a super-fan. Dude, do you know how awkward that is? Hell


Dude i think younger people like us need something/someone to look up to. Otherwise we will turn up like boring and insecure assholes like that dude being rude to you. It's a part of becoming a man. Persons i look up to, My dad, my old teacher i had as a kid (he died 2 mouths ago..) and Devin. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

Dev, to quote your issue about beeing rude to fans that always stands in your way, it's fully understandable but try be careful with younger people man.. It could really ruin things for them i think.

cheers. :)



I'm getting too old for heroes. Anymore, I just want to surround myself with open minds and positive people.

I can understand situations where someone younger needs something or someone to look up to, whether it is God or a neighbor. 10 years ago, Devin's music was my outlet after my father had passed away. I felt like his music understood to me in ways others did not (Close friends called me a debbie-downer, I was 16). And it helped me cope. But there is a time to put stuff like that aside and look at it from a much bigger perspective. Some people need God, at the time, all I needed was something to help me understand. I thank Devin and his music for that. But I never idolized him.

If you want heroes watch TMZ. :)


I'm actually of a similar mindset to you. Dev's music has been a soundtrack to some pretty awesomely empowering moments in life, but that's not necessarily more than just a circumstance.

I wouldn't say I idolize Dev, but I have certainly learned from him, just as I've learned from many people with stories to tell.

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