I think Windows abstracts from some crucial details, like file types. Most people can't tell an MP3 from a Word document, which is very annoying.

One day my boss wanted me to find a file on the computer at work. But, he had no idea where it was, what it was called or what file type it was. How am I going to help then?

you could whack him

Yeah, wack him. Hard.

so i got rid of windows vista

now im running ubuntu

biert, ill be nagging you constantly now.

I'm also a windows user who loves linux.

At work I have XP and at home I'm using Vista.

Ubuntu is waiting for my other pc, need a display for it

(And Vista is good enough for me, don't tell me how sucky it is )

If it works for you yay! I actually quite like the OS, but my god, it gobbles up my hard drive, ram and processor and is still asking for my graphics card for dessert.

Grrrr. Upgrade time tho, I need to play sexy new games anyway

I'm currently using Ubuntu and Windows XP on separate hard drives. I think Linux wins.

Beryl == awesome.

I'm genuinely surprised nobody's pointed out that Darwin (The OSX kernel) has quite a lot of code base in BSD and is actually a UNIX kernel. OSX is a very pretty UNIX environment, which is why you can use UNIX commands in an OSX terminal window. That makes it pretty darned close to Linux if you ask me, as all the linux flavours are the same idea on other various UNIX kernels.

[Keeker]

I'm genuinely surprised nobody's pointed out that Darwin (The OSX kernel) has quite a lot of code base in BSD and is actually a UNIX kernel. OSX is a very pretty UNIX environment, which is why you can use UNIX commands in an OSX terminal window. That makes it pretty darned close to Linux if you ask me, as all the linux flavours are the same idea on other various UNIX kernels.

I thought I did mention that OSX and Linux were kissing cousins at one point. Although it may have been in IRC. I forget.

I'm genuinely surprised nobody's pointed out that Darwin (The OSX kernel) has quite a lot of code base in BSD and is actually a UNIX kernel. OSX is a very pretty UNIX environment, which is why you can use UNIX commands in an OSX terminal window. That makes it pretty darned close to Linux if you ask me, as all the linux flavours are the same idea on other various UNIX kernels.

Still, OSX is a piece of crap Apple product.

Darwin is indeed a Unix kernel and it is indeed based on BSD. But that doesn't make it "pretty darned close to Linux". Linux is not based on BSD, but developed from scratch to resemble the Minix operating system. Darwin is indeed a Unix kernel, but not a lot of Linux software will run on OSX and no Mac software will run on Linux.

Besides, even though Darwin is open source, it's published under the APSL rather than GPL, which is the sole base of the Linux kernel.

Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard" is out as of today.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DluRlValiE[/youtube]

After seeing that video I doubt if it deserves to be called a "new operating system". As far as I can tell most of the changes have appeared on the level of the desktop applications that are bundled with the operating system. Those some changes could have been achieved without updating the OS, I'm quite sure the new iChat and Mail and whatever would run on 10.4 as well. These applications are not operating system features.


On the other hand, the new Ubuntu "Gutsy Gibbon" 7.10 was released last week, and that seems to be a big step forward. I'd recommend that to anyone who'd like to give Linux a try. It's really one of the (if not the) most user-friendly linux distribution out there. (I'd personally suggest Kubuntu, which uses KDE instead of Gnome but that's personal preference).

Ubuntu now uses a 3D accelerated desktop thingy (Windows Aero eat your heart out ) and has a butt-load of applications delivered along with it. And it has an even bigger load of applications that can be added or replaced or removed easily using the "package manager". Pretty much every application installer you'll ever need all in one central place, how neat is that?

Of course these aren't operating system features, but the upgraded kernel featuring many many new drivers, improved wireless networking and many other changes make this a really good OS for home-use. Available in many versions, the standard Desktop version still fits on 1 CD!

And it's all free Download or order your free CD from http://www.ubuntu.org

Here's somethnig pretty to look at:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bggsqbOTXBM[/youtube](See, it does have the "Spaces" thing (linux had it for yeeeeears) and transparency).

SPAM!

i have encountered thoughts regarding ubuntu

[Keeker]

As far as I can tell..

The key words.

I use Windows. Just for the convenience factor. I don't have all the problems people bitch about - but I'm more proficient than your typical user, so that helps.

I've played with Linux a bit, and I like it. But I always find something I can't get it to do, and turn back tow Windows instead. Then I find I need the hard drive space, so I delete my Linux Partitions.

I never bothered with Mac. Nothing against it, but I find it simplet to build my own PC and install my own OS. If I could install the Mac OS, I probably would give it a go.

EDIT: After that Ubuntu clip, I might give it a go when I build my new PC next year.