I feel almost confused! Like I dont exactally know where to stand when it comes to "indie". It used to just mean being indipendent. Then it became a music genre. Now it's a clique.

I'm saying this because I got in a huge debate today. This kid was saying how he dosn't listen to bands (or watch movies) that everyone elses likes. He said things about how bands loose some input in the recording process when they're signed to a major label-which I understand is true- but it seemed like he was more conerned with his music being elite and esortic. He said he used to love Radiohead, and his favorite album was "Ok Computer". That came out in 1997 I believe. He's 17, meaning the youngest he could have been when that album came out was 10, and i doubt he was that young. Hail the the Thief was probably out by the time he heard it. But once he decided that kids his age also started to love Radiohead, he ditched it.

He also hates the movie Juno. Not because of the movie itself, but because now a bunch of kids are now listening to Kimya Dawson. He claims to have liked her music first, and makes a huge deal out of it. He loved the movie when it first came out

it just gets really aggrevating hearing all of this. I know some artists like Devin prefer to keep things low, but I think a lot of bands really want to get recognized. What this kid is doing is selfish in a way. I dont know. What do you all think?

I know what you mean, and I know some people who are like this. It's just a superiority complex, that doesn't have anything to do with the music, but how well-known a band is. Some people just wanna feel special by being 'into' bands that no one else knows, and putting well-rounded bands down. I think it's immature. I hang out with a bunch of other metal heads, and for two of them, only the rawest 80's thrash and NWOBHM is all that they listen to, and dismiss every other metal band in existence. One of them actually had the balls to post a myspace bulletin of a music survey, some of the questions included if he enjoyed bands such as Opeth, Devin/SYL, etc. And he called it all garbage. I deleted his ass so fast, just for that. (Plus, real metalheads don't post music surveys.)

So if a person can't swallow their pride and enjoy any kind of music, whether its played on the radio 10 times a day or the most obscure band that only two people have heard of, instead of dedicating more effort to being a nonconformist than a music lover, then I pity them. Their loss, anyway.

[Blazingmonga]

Sounds like this kid doesn't really love music, just loves being a music fan. Maybe he even loves himself.

That's almoust the same as changing your fave
ice hockey group if they don't play well enough for you.

Or your favourite football team.

I don't like stuff like that.

I think the boy is just too obsessed in being different
that it confuses even himself that he doesn't know
how to really like music or other stuff.

Sounds like this kid doesn't really love music, just loves being a music fan. Maybe he even loves himself.

He actually loves me, he's just all pissed 'cause I wont return his calls, just ignore him.


Really though, it's just par for the course of being a teenager for most people.

Unfortunately it seems to continue after that too. There are quite a lot of people who seem obsessed with making it clear that they were into a particular kind of music or band before everyone else...being away from that mentality is part of what I'm enjoyingabout being away from music scenes

That's almoust the same as changing your fave
ice hockey group if they don't play well enough for you.

Nope, it's the same as your favourite sports team being too good so everyone starts to like them, so you start to like a different team.

It's just a crazy thing. Preferring quantity over quality usually is.

Just tell the kid to start his own band and not tell anyone about it so he alone can love it to death

i'd say the kiddo's attitude is quite a more general affliction. ive dealt with many an "adult" who does the same thing.

i used to be similar when i was about 15. it wasn't so much a superiority complex that blossomed out of me knowing bands others didnt, it was moreso a belief that the mainstream was comprised of crap, crap and more crap.

I grew up. Lots of those BM and punk guys don't though.

That's almoust the same as changing your fave
ice hockey group if they don't play well enough for you.

Nope, it's the same as your favourite sports team being too good so everyone starts to like them, so you start to like a different team.

Sorry about that, somehow I didn't write it as I meant it, but thanks
for clearing that out for me

I've had three ciders, I might be typing anything now
Hope I won't get hangover from these
(it has happened. 3 ciders and horrible morning after!)

I used to be sort of like that. Back when all I listened to was Dream Theater. I had no clue at all.

Do you think maybe the right answer is to have a balance? Like, appreciate the fact that some bands you like are special and not too well known, but also enjoy really popular bands. I mean, there are so many great mainstreme bands out there. Sigur Ros, Radiohead, Daft Punk, etc.

thats what you get for being a hipster cunt

I think that kid is being silly and very big-headed. I don't understand why people stop listening to bands when more people listen to that band than before! I mean what does the music suddenly change or something??

"Oh yeah I used to love 'Enter Sandman',but now everyone else listens to it all of the riffs have changed and the solo is weak."

It doesn't make any sense. I also have dealt with people like that and they all seemed to be under the impression that they're special and know everything there is to know about music, and that everyone else is inferior and are just 'following the crowd'. These are the same sort of people that think you're 'sad' if you like a band they don't, or 'narrow-minded' if you don't like a band they do like. If I meet anyone like this and they start giving all this kind of shit I just end the conversation and walk away.

"Oh yeah I used to love 'Enter Sandman',but now everyone else listens to it all of the riffs have changed and the solo is weak."

However, the "Oh yeah I used to love 'Enter Sandman', but now it's been played so many times that if I hear that riff one more time I might tear my own ear drums out and the solo is so deeply etched into my brain that the only relief I have to look forward to is the sweet silence of death" argument is still valid.......