its funny, alot of hipster cunts here in australia are jumping on the obama bandwagon when they have absolutely zero knowledge of american politics let alone australian politics . ah kids...

The about Palin that really made me depise her even more was how she was against abortion in all situations excluding one where the mother's life is in danger because of the baby. That means not allowing women to have abortions even in cases of pregnancy from rape and incest. I believe that if a woman is a victim of rape or incest and she becomes pregnant, that is a situation that is mentally dangerous to her. I find it hard to believe that someone wouldn't be greatly affected by such circumstances, and denying women of that choice is something I find to be very disturbing.

I agree with that. I still think it's quite fucked up just to get an abortion because you were too stupid/lazy to take action to prevent getting pregnant.

[Keeker]

The about Palin that really made me depise her even more was how she was against abortion in all situations excluding one where the mother's life is in danger because of the baby. That means not allowing women to have abortions even in cases of pregnancy from rape and incest. I believe that if a woman is a victim of rape or incest and she becomes pregnant, that is a situation that is mentally dangerous to her. I find it hard to believe that someone wouldn't be greatly affected by such circumstances, and denying women of that choice is something I find to be very disturbing.

I agree with that. I still think it's quite fucked up just to get an abortion because you were too stupid/lazy to take action to prevent getting pregnant.

But those are probably the very people you wouldn't want bringing kids into the world.

[djskrimp]

its funny, alot of hipster punks here in australia are jumping on the obama bandwagon when they have absolutely zero knowledge of american politics let alone australian politics . ah kids...

Innit mandatory for all Australians of age to vote?

its funny, alot of hipster punks here in australia are jumping on the obama bandwagon when they have absolutely zero knowledge of american politics let alone australian politics . ah kids...

I'm probably one of those kids... Though I'm not Australian. And not a hipster punk. I don't even know what that means :p

Innit mandatory for all Australians of age to vote?

Yeah, it is compulsory (voting age is 18), which can be both good and bad...
Whenever I vote I wear this:

The about Palin that really made me depise her even more was how she was against abortion in all situations excluding one where the mother's life is in danger because of the baby. That means not allowing women to have abortions even in cases of pregnancy from rape and incest. I believe that if a woman is a victim of rape or incest and she becomes pregnant, that is a situation that is mentally dangerous to her. I find it hard to believe that someone wouldn't be greatly affected by such circumstances, and denying women of that choice is something I find to be very disturbing.

I agree with that. I still think it's quite fucked up just to get an abortion because you were too stupid/lazy to take action to prevent getting pregnant.

But those are probably the very people you wouldn't want bringing kids into the world.

This is why we have contraceptives and clinics around the country that give them out for free.

The about Palin that really made me depise her even more was how she was against abortion in all situations excluding one where the mother's life is in danger because of the baby. That means not allowing women to have abortions even in cases of pregnancy from rape and incest. I believe that if a woman is a victim of rape or incest and she becomes pregnant, that is a situation that is mentally dangerous to her. I find it hard to believe that someone wouldn't be greatly affected by such circumstances, and denying women of that choice is something I find to be very disturbing.

I agree with that. I still think it's quite fucked up just to get an abortion because you were too stupid/lazy to take action to prevent getting pregnant.

But those are probably the very people you wouldn't want bringing kids into the world.

This is why we have contraceptives and clinics around the country that give them out for free.

The way I see it, I'm pro-choice, and I'm not going to deny a woman the choice to have an abortion. But I think that a lot of the arguing and hair-spliting between pro- and anti-abortion supporters would be stopped or at least minimized if the government (either on a state or federal level) set a time period for choosing whether or not to have an abortion. One possibility would be to limit the time for abortion to only take place during the first trimester (or shortly thereafter), because that way it gives parents 3 months to weigh their options, both from a time, money, and belief standpoint, and make a concious decision on whether or not to keep the child.

I also think it is very irresponsible to use abortion as a form of birth control, when condoms and BC pills are made very much available. There are people who do exploit the system, but then there are those who utilize it responsibly (in cases of condoms failing, rape, etc) in order to ensure they have a child at the right time and under their terms.

[Keeker]

I know not the rules in the US but here there is a time limit of 24 weeks except for unusual circumstances. Also surely nobody would willingly use abortion as a form of birth control. I can't imagine it is something any woman would undertake lightly.

It's all good saying women should use contraceptives more responsibly and that couples should plan more more conceiving, but if a women is being raped or abused then she doesnt really have much time to think about contraceptives. How many women have stopped their attacker and said, 'please wear this because i don't want to get pregnant when you rape me'. Yes, using abortion as a contraceptive is not a good thing but I think many more rights should be given to women concerning their choices about pregnancy. Whether the child is wanted or not having a child can be an extremely stressful, depressing and life-changing time in a womans life, and in my opinion every woman should be given full support in every decision concerning pregnancy that she makes. I do support abortion rights. Needless to say, when me and my partner decide to have children I will be making sure that we both know the full potential of what we are doing.

But back on topic....

GO OBAMA!!

I stayed up very late watching the live results of the election, and I have never taken as much interest in a political event before as I have this election. I really wanted Obama to win and have done since the very start. So I was extremely happy with the result! I actually pumped my fist in the air and shouted 'YES, COME ON!'!!! Not only does his victory mark an extremely important event in American history, but in World history too. And I am hoping that this globally significant event also helps the world begin moving away from what I see as an imminent global breakdown of inter-relations. The way things are going, we're going to end up either in a nuclear war or a world-changing global recession within the next 5 years, and I'm hoping that this positive election result will help pave a road away from that. I for one do not want to die as a result as so called 'world leaders' not getting on. Barack Obama may just well be the one to make sense out of this huge mess the world is in right now. He seems alot more capable than any other politician/leader around today of actually making positive changes in the world we live in. To me he comes across as the first honest leader. I only wish we had someone just like him doing the same for our country.

Innit mandatory for all Australians of age to vote?

Yeah, it is compulsory (voting age is 18), which can be both good and bad...
Whenever I vote I wear this:

Yoooooooooooouuuuuuuu legend

It's all good saying women should use contraceptives more responsibly and that couples should plan more more conceiving, but if a women is being raped or abused then she doesnt really have much time to think about contraceptives. How many women have stopped their attacker and said, 'please wear this because i don't want to get pregnant when you rape me'. Yes, using abortion as a contraceptive is not a good thing but I think many more rights should be given to women concerning their choices about pregnancy. Whether the child is wanted or not having a child can be an extremely stressful, depressing and life-changing time in a womans life, and in my opinion every woman should be given full support in every decision concerning pregnancy that she makes. I do support abortion rights. Needless to say, when me and my partner decide to have children I will be making sure that we both know the full potential of what we are doing.

But back on topic....

GO OBAMA!!

Obviously women who are raped are going to be more worried about escaping their attacker rather than asking them to use protection. I wasn't trying to say that women who are raped need to focus on using contraceptives more (if your post was a response to mine, that is), I was saying that women AND men (who are in relationships) need to be more responsible with contraceptives. There are couples or swingers who have unprotected super happy sex time, but then realize that have a kid on the way and rely on abortion to bring things back to normal, when they could have just prevented the pregnancy from the start. The "abortion-because-of-rape" situation is a lot different than the "abortion-because-of-time/money/accident" situation (as I'm sure you realize). Props on planned parenthood mentality!

I am very pleased on the outcome of the election. I've supported him for a long time and have been fortunate enough to attend a few rallies since my states was a swing state this year. My little red state turned blue for the first time in 40 years.

I was especially glad that I wouldn't have to hear about Sarah Palin for a while, but she's making the media rounds this week.

Also surely nobody would willingly use abortion as a form of birth control. I can't imagine it is something any woman would undertake lightly.

hear hear. Glad someone's talking sense.

As a bit of a conspiracy nut, I couldn't help but notice the 'O'bama campaign symbol signifies he's connected to the Illuminati, according to research by Jordan Maxwell on the sunrise symbol. Also a fan of Bill Cooper, "They're chosen, not elected" youtube his version of the JFK assassination