So you'd rather have cancer than hinder your mobility. Sense.

I'll take that as speaking out of sheer ignorance on your part. Obviously you've never been in an attic in the dead of summer. It gets hot...really hot. You know, around 120+ degrees Fahrenheit (around 50 C)

I think you really need to evaluate what you say before you post something so you dont make yourself look stupid. Go spend about 20 minutes in a fully insulated attic this summer and we'll see how quickly you want out of it.

So you'd rather have cancer than hinder your mobility. Sense.

I'll take that as speaking out of sheer ignorance on your part. Obviously you've never been in an attic in the dead of summer. It gets hot...really hot. You know, around 120+ degrees Fahrenheit (around 50 C)

Go spend about 20 minutes in a fully insulated attic this summer and we'll see how quickly you want out of it.

Because it's a flash of genius to cast aside any precautionary measures for your long-term health? In my opinion, you're the one who looks "ignorant" for not putting on simple breathing apparatus now to prevent potential years of unnecessary pain leading to death. And no - I won't spend my summers in attics, because I intend my career to involve teaching children how to read and write and so I'll have three month holidays during the summer.

I think you really need to evaluate what you say before you post something so you dont make yourself look stupid

And I think that you really need to evaluate what you say before you post something in general, you've made over 100 posts in two weeks.

Here's more blah about my shoulder tendinitis for anyone's interested

Yes. Yes. Yes. I wasn't about to own up to attributing arms pains and shoulder pain to spending too much time at a key board, or holding a heavy instrument all the time ( Yah I know I'm weak) but you seem to have good advice. In all fairness, my last job was an office job that involved lots of typing.
Anyways, were you sitting with your shoulders all tensed up, and kind of hunched? That's what happens to me since my swivel chair doesn't have arm rests. NEED to get a new chair, and some wrist support mechanism.

Yup', I'm relatively skinny so for a while I just thought it was caused by lack of muscle, fatigue, low blood pressure, lack of activity, or sleeping on my arm (cuz' it used to hurt more in the morning and got better during the day) or a mix of all that.
In my case the main pain was running down the deltoid, either more on the front or back.

And yes, I had a bad position like you describe. My desk had a sliding drawer where the keyboard should have been, but I had my tablet graphic and mouse there, so the keyboard was up on the main board of the desk. My chair had armrests, but I had to raise my shoulders to type.
And yes I was quite hunched too as the desk wasn't deep (70cm with an old fat 19" CRT taking most of the space, my face was pretty much on the screen).
The depth of the desk may be quite important, as if you don't have enough space to rest your forearms, you're not gonna type with your arms stretched so instead you will probably move forward and hunch over the keyboard to balance the weight of your arms, contracting your shoulders. Maybe some will rest the arm on the wrist, and mess their wrist instead, either way, it's not good.
If you have enough space, you rest your arms and sit back.

Now I have a big LCD on a big desk (90cm deep, which may be too deep if you have a small pitch at 2460*1920 pixels, hence why I chose a screen with large pitch, you wouldn't want to have to be hunch again because teh letters are too small :p), which means enough space for everything and more importantly to rest my forearms while typing, using the mice, tablet, etc (so in fact I'm not using the chair's armrests that much when typing, but I use it when staring at nothing with my mouth half-open).

If you play guitar, this may not help either. My left arm would start to hurt after 15 minutes of playing guitar hero (which isn't really a heavy instrument :p).
So rest and time are important too. When searching the web, I read a lot of messages where someone would say the pain was gone after having physical therapy, so they would start sport again and the pain would come back the next morning. Obviously the pain was gone but the tissues were not healed (that's the same for guitarists which have tendinitis I think, they have to stop playing for a while).

Also from what I've read, you'd better stay away from corticoid injections and things like that, it may have some really bad effects in the long term if repeated too much (maybe it's used more in the case of a serious injury with really severe pain rather than tendinitis, I don't know, but I'd keep that as a last resort).

For a bit of anatomy, my kine told me the shoulder is a "floating" articulation (it's not resting on a bone), held by a bunch of muscles (which form the infamous, tendinitis-prone "rotator cuff") which work more or less depending on the angle you're moving your arm.
In my case the elevator muscles were pulling too much, kind of moving the whole shoulder slightly out of socket, and causing some difficulties to rotate the arm in certain position (like when washing my hair, with the elbow high I couldn't rotate my arm folded, I had to stretch the arm, rotate, and fold it back).

Well this whole rant is my case^^, yours may be totally different, so find a kine which listens to what you say, as some really don't give a damn.

So you'd rather have cancer than hinder your mobility. Sense.

I'll take that as speaking out of sheer ignorance on your part. Obviously you've never been in an attic in the dead of summer. It gets hot...really hot. You know, around 120+ degrees Fahrenheit (around 50 C)

Go spend about 20 minutes in a fully insulated attic this summer and we'll see how quickly you want out of it.

Because it's a flash of genius to cast aside any precautionary measures for your long-term health? In my opinion, you're the one who looks "ignorant" for not putting on simple breathing apparatus now to prevent potential years of unnecessary pain leading to death. And no - I won't spend my summers in attics, because I intend my career to involve teaching children how to read and write and so I'll have three month holidays during the summer.

I think you really need to evaluate what you say before you post something so you dont make yourself look stupid

And I think that you really need to evaluate what you say before you post something in general, you've made over 100 posts in two weeks.

This coming from someone who has the capacity of a typical 4channer. This is not my career, it is my job for now. Belittling me over what I do to keep myself from passing out during the course of my day makes you look stupid. According to some of the higher ups around here, you're walking on thin ice with your belittlement of others and your outspoken, almost insulting tone in basically all of your posts. You seem to have a mighty superiority complex, but so do a lot of people over the internet.

I believe you said you've had quite a few medical issues in the past, I wonder why?

As for your "career choice", judging from how you are on this forum, I would I have to be paid to have YOU teach any child I would have. Your demeanor is that of a narcissistic, self-righteous douche bag who feels the need to put others down to elevate your own personal standing.

Dont worry about my posts, just because I have a little free time after work and feel like I want to post here. I dont need your criticism on how I am on here. You of all people on this forum should watch what your posts say.

This coming from someone who has the capacity of a typical 4channer.

I have been nothing but eloquent in any tête-à-tête I've had here, you are the one who has resorted to immature name-calling, culminating in a locked discussion. This forum's search engine brings up no results in my posts indicative of anything 4chan, so I don't know why you consider that I'm comparable to somebody on that site.

According to some of the higher ups around here, you're walking on thin ice with your belittlement of others and your outspoken, almost insulting tone in basically all of your posts.

I have been warned about hostility in my posts already, apologised, and I will leave it for them to inform me of the strength of my ice.

I believe you said you've had quite a few medical issues in the past, I wonder why?

It's funny that when I enquired about your snide comment regarding my nose-breakages, you didn't address what you meant. But now that you feel threatened you're bringing it up again; which is good because it gives me a chance to retaliate and tell you that at the age of fifteen, I was a lot less confrontational than I am now (especially in real life). The first incident (the cigarette one) was as a result of our native "chavs" deciding that I was a "goth" with little or no conversation involved. The second was an unprecedented physical outburst by somebody I loved and trusted of which I happened to be on the receiving end, without provocation.

As for your "career choice", judging from how you are on this forum, I would I have to be paid to have YOU teach any child I would have.

How could you have any idea of how I am with kids, based on my dealings with people who are adults? If a person treats adults the same way they treat children then they definitely shouldn't be allowed to deal with them. For your information I have had a great deal of exposure to children. In three years of babysitting for others there has never been a single complaint, and I have great friendships with a network of families through child minding I have done. As well as that, I have an eight year-old brother who requires a great deal of effort and responsibility to take care of. So anyway, I don't even really see what you were getting at. I never said you were bad at installing air conditioning. I just said you might want to consider your health.

You seem to have a mighty superiority complex, but so do a lot of people over the internet... Your demeanor is that of a narcissistic, self-righteous douche bag who feels the need to put others down to elevate your own personal standing.

I have expressedly stated on several occasions that I come across as aggressive because of the format of my posts, and I'm sorry if people take it personally. I infrequently use smilies which probably means most people don't see me as the happy-go-lucky scamp I really am. I'm mostly being sarcastic if I take shots at people. I'm not particularly over-enamoured with myself as a person, so I don't know how any air of a superiority complex would somehow seep through in my posts.

You of all people on this forum should watch what your posts say.

I'm sorry. I've also noticed the distinct lack of two-word answers, smiley faces and gratuitous over-use of the acronym "lol" in my posts. Generally when I insult somebody I don't like to make them feel that they can't retaliate by making it sound like it's in jest.

Let me just address everything you posted in a much less cluttered format, namely no quotes.

1- That discussion that was locked was mostly due to someone who basically started spewing conspiracy shit all over my thread that was very civil to begin with.

2- The medical issues statement was a stab at how you are on here and your history you mentioned before. I understand translating how you are on the internet, with anonymity, can be much different than in real life, but it was mostly used to say "quit being so confrontational all together"

3- One's first impression is the most important. The way you come off on here makes it seem like you are a very cynical, self-important person. How you may be around kids can be different, for sure. I for one, am usually annoyed by some kids. I'm sure I'm not the only one, but I've grown up with a very hyperactive younger sister(no ADHD or any of that, she just has a lot of energy) and she does get on my nerves once in a while. I dont install air conditioners either, I fix them. The best thing for my health is to get out of this job, which I am in the process of doing. It's just not easy with the bills I have and the state of the economy (come on Obama...change for the better please?)

4- Sarcasm doesn't exactly work on the internet unless accompanied by said acronyms or smilies. It usually helps people who are reading to know the mood of the statement, cause you know, I cant really tell what your mood might be in a post UNLESS YOU USE CAPS FOR YELLING/ANGER.

And finally, I compared you with a 4channer due to your blatantly outright cynicism, or at least your facade of cynicism as you would probably put it.

Plus, learn to lighten up. It's an internet forum. Most of your posts seem so serious, which is good when the topic is serious...but constantly berating people over small things, whether jokingly or not, typically leads to things like this.

Let me just address everything you posted in a much less cluttered format, namely no quotes.

I'm sorry that the clarity of a structured rebuttal doesn't appeal to you. Personally I think that responding to each point while referencing what you're addressing is a less cluttered format than bullet points, but that's just my preference.

1- That discussion that was locked was mostly due to someone who basically started spewing conspiracy shit all over my thread that was very civil to begin with.

Yes, but the final post before the thread was locked saw you calling him a "twat" and presuming he was a "European who has already sunken into strict socialism due to lack of morale to do anything yourself" with seemingly no basis for that assumption.

2- The medical issues statement was a stab at how you are on here and your history you mentioned before. I understand translating how you are on the internet, with anonymity, can be much different than in real life, but it was mostly used to say "quit being so confrontational all together"

Thanks for your advice, I'll try.

3- One's first impression is the most important. The way you come off on here makes it seem like you are a very cynical, self-important person. How you may be around kids can be different, for sure. I for one, am usually annoyed by some kids. I'm sure I'm not the only one, but I've grown up with a very hyperactive younger sister(no ADHD or any of that, she just has a lot of energy) and she does get on my nerves once in a while.

Cynical, I am. I don't know where you picked up an air of self-importance from. As for the kids thing, patience is a virtue. I feel that when adults say and do things which make them look weak or silly, these instances should be addressed with a view to self-improvement. With children, they're constantly trying new things and making the same mistakes over and over. Of course this has to be excused because it's part of a learning process. It's futile to become agitated and frustrated when dealing with somebody who couldn't possibly have the life experience to know otherwise, it's important to remember who is the adult.

4- Sarcasm doesn't exactly work on the internet unless accompanied by said acronyms or smilies. It usually helps people who are reading to know the mood of the statement, cause you know, I cant really tell what your mood might be in a post UNLESS YOU USE CAPS FOR YELLING/ANGER.

Ok, I'll try and use more smilies. I've just always liked to think that words were sufficient in the expression of an opinion. I don't even think capitalisation is the correct way of implying a raised voice, I think emboldening text is the modern substitute for excessive use of the exclamation mark!!! Although I should probably just shut the fuck up because I'm a tyrant when it comes to grammar.

And finally, I compared you with a 4channer due to your blatantly outright cynicism, or at least your facade of cynicism as you would probably put it.

You sounded cynical about your government in the aforementioned America thread, does that make you a 4channer? What a ridiculous analogy.

Plus, learn to lighten up. It's an internet forum. Most of your posts seem so serious, which is good when the topic is serious...but constantly berating people over small things, whether jokingly or not, typically leads to things like this.

It was you who instigated this debate by attacking me for suggesting you wear a mask, for the sake of your health, while working. I am of the opinion that it is actually people blowing innocent statements ridiculously out of proportion which typically leads to things like this.

So you'd rather have cancer than hinder your mobility. Sense.

No, I instigated this because you insulted me outright.

And with that we end this, your "never say die" mentality can almost be applauded. But at the same time, I dont even think you're worth the time to argue with.

Well one last thing...Cynical about my government? Be informed. Thousands of people in USA are concerned about our government, not cynical. Learn the difference.

So you'd rather have cancer than hinder your mobility. Sense.

No, I instigated this because you insulted me outright.

There was no insult in the post you quoted. All I did was use the information you had given me to form an a similitude, and express that I didn't think it was sensible.

Cynical about my government? Be informed. Thousands of people in USA are concerned about our government, not cynical. Learn the difference.

concern: an anxious feeling
cynicism: a skeptical, scornful or pessimistic attitude
I think the two terms are equally fitting, considering their negative connotations; but that's more than likely ignorance on my part.

And with that we end this, your "never say die" mentality can almost be applauded. But at the same time, I dont even think you're worth the time to argue with.

And I think that arguing on the internet is like running in the...

Oh wait. That's hypocrisy, even if it is hilariously true. ... ... ... ... ...

Haha funny thing is, I was actually about to bring that analogy up...

Are we done now? Huh? I suggest a round of half-assed handshakes, even if you have to cross your fingers behind your backs.

Are we done now? Huh? I suggest a round of half-assed handshakes, even if you have to cross your fingers behind your backs.

And to think everything started when Zyprexa expressed concern on Alucard's health.

I want to comment on one thing then shut up:

4- Sarcasm doesn't exactly work on the internet unless accompanied by said acronyms or smilies. It usually helps people who are reading to know the mood of the statement, cause you know, I cant really tell what your mood might be in a post UNLESS YOU USE CAPS FOR YELLING/ANGER.

Nope. Quality sarcasm depends on deadpan delivery and wit of reader, who should feel that's person writing sarcastic comments doesn't mean quite exactly what it appears. Sticking "/sarcasm" tags, smilies or acronyms lower it's level to canned-laugh off crap sitcoms or yelling "HAHAHA, GET IT!!?, GET IT!?" after telling someone a joke.

It's my personal opinion and I fully agree with it.

Now have a kitten:

Are we done now? Huh? I suggest a round of half-assed handshakes, even if you have to cross your fingers behind your backs.

But rising to the bait is an internet faux pas of mine... Oh alright! Sorry Alucard, I shouldn't have insulted the way you do your job. All better.

Quality sarcasm depends on deadpan delivery and wit of reader, who should feel that's person writing sarcastic comments doesn't mean quite exactly what it appears. Sticking "/sarcasm" tags, smilies or acronyms lower it's level to canned-laugh off crap sitcoms or yelling "HAHAHA, GET IT!!?, GET IT!?" after telling someone a joke.

I agree thoroughly, but also understand that sometimes sarcasm can be lost without a contextual overtone. I guess the spoken word isn't considered to hold the same regard on the internet these days; no wonder when you consider that people don't even bother to send complete words in texts (debatably the most prevalent communication method between people today) anymore.

On a related un-awesome note: I'm so "not with it"; my mom sent me a text yesterday saying "hi orl, hope als gud 4 u der. havn a gr8 time, v rlaxdn sunny". She's in Lanzarote. It took me about ten minutes to actually adjust my brain to read the text phonetically, even then I couldn't get around the "rlaxdn" word. Turns out she'd run (questionably) an abbreviation for "relaxed" into an "n" which was intended as the word "and". Sure, it may take less time for you to write it (does it really???), but it takes about ten times longer for me to read it...

[swervedriver]

I'd rather spend 5 extra minutes texting rather than coming across as a 5-year old on crack (or something, I'm not that good with analogies). In fact, I'd rather not spend time texting at all. My phone agrees because it likes to crash randomly while in the middle of a text. Or maybe it's telling me to speed up my texting. It's a mystery.

On a related un-awesome note: I'm so "not with it"; my mom sent me a text yesterday saying "hi orl, hope als gud 4 u der. havn a gr8 time, v rlaxdn sunny". She's in Lanzarote. It took me about ten minutes to actually adjust my brain to read the text phonetically, even then I couldn't get around the "rlaxdn" word. Turns out she'd run (questionably) an abbreviation for "relaxed" into an "n" which was intended as the word "and". Sure, it may take less time for you to write it (does it really???), but it takes about ten times longer for me to read it...

I'm still trying to figure out what 'als' means in that text...

[djskrimp]

I'd rather spend 5 extra minutes texting rather than coming across as a 5-year old on crack (or something, I'm not that good with analogies). In fact, I'd rather not spend time texting at all. My phone agrees because it likes to crash randomly while in the middle of a text. Or maybe it's telling me to speed up my texting. It's a mystery.

On a related un-awesome note: I'm so "not with it"; my mom sent me a text yesterday saying "hi orl, hope als gud 4 u der. havn a gr8 time, v rlaxdn sunny". She's in Lanzarote. It took me about ten minutes to actually adjust my brain to read the text phonetically, even then I couldn't get around the "rlaxdn" word. Turns out she'd run (questionably) an abbreviation for "relaxed" into an "n" which was intended as the word "and". Sure, it may take less time for you to write it (does it really???), but it takes about ten times longer for me to read it...

I'm still trying to figure out what 'als' means in that text...

all is good.