Thing is, other than Blueray, there's really not much of a difference between the 360 and PS3 in terms of hardware capabilities, so the superior hardware argument doesn't really pan out. Games generally look and perform the same or better on the 360 anyway, as that's what the majority of developers are targeting, and it's much easier to program for (so I understand).

You have to bear in mind that there's a very big difference between the specs of a system on paper, and how that system performs in reality.

[EphelDuath666]

well, the PS3 can do amazing things...just play Uncharted 2 and you will see the best looking console game so far, there are no framerate issues EVER and the textures are amazing. If game developers would get into the whole PS3 game programming thing a bit more deeply then they could do amazing things on the PS3 and multiplatform games would always be at least as good on the PS3.

I'm going to but in on this little discussion and change the subject for a minute cos I need halp!

So, from the delights of Sony, (whom I've never once had a single issue with any of their three Playstations - just to contribute to the argument), to the wonders of 90's Sega!

I've gots me my MegaDrive and am trying to hook it up to my new TV so I can have my PS2, PS3 and Sega all hooked to the one TV for the first time ever. But I've hit a snag on the Sega, because I can't get it to connect into the back of the TV. Here's what the unit of the MegaDrive looks like:



The back of the TV has an ANT IN, so I can plug the connection on the right of that picture (TV OUT) into the TV. However I have nowhere to connect the ANT IN cable on the left.

And so I axe you, what do I do here? Is there a SCART thing or something I can try find for the loose ANT IN connector?

All advice appreciated!

[EphelDuath666]

I guess you'd have to remove your TV cable from your TV and plug this cable into it. My LCD TV doesn't have 2 such ports either.

edit: heh...didn't read the rest of your post. Hmm...dunno if you even need the left one. I don't think you do.

I guess you'd have to remove your TV cable from your TV and plug this cable into it. My LCD TV doesn't have 2 such ports either.

edit: heh...didn't read the rest of your post. Hmm...dunno if you even need the left one. I don't think you do.

You're right! Turns out you don't. Those oh so considerate people of the 90's gave you that one on the left to plug your TV into if you had to plug it out to play your console. How lovely!

Just trying to tune it now. Nearly had it a minute ago. This'll be so awesome if I can make it work.

hello fellows, sorry not posted in a bit been getting roped into modern warefare 2 and raging at play.com for not delivering my Assassin's creed 2 black edition on time...bastards. either way Assassins creed 2 pretty much shits all over the first one bu tthen again the first one was basically a demo test. got bored of modern warefare 2 after you do the campaign on co op i couldn't be bothered.

going for the fll 1000points on AC2 pretty much jsut need the featehrs /cape and to finish the game now

IT LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVES!!!!

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The original Sonic the Hedgehog, in 32" gloriousness.

It'd bring a tear to my eyes, if only my tear ducts weren't welded shut by the giant smile on my face.

[Octillus]

I'm going to but in on this little discussion and change the subject for a minute cos I need halp!

So, from the delights of Sony, (whom I've never once had a single issue with any of their three Playstations - just to contribute to the argument), to the wonders of 90's Sega!

I've gots me my MegaDrive and am trying to hook it up to my new TV so I can have my PS2, PS3 and Sega all hooked to the one TV for the first time ever. But I've hit a snag on the Sega, because I can't get it to connect into the back of the TV.

I was very much a sega kid. Kinda ironic since I am currently on Nintendo's payroll.

[EphelDuath666]

well, I always was a Nintendo fanboy when I was a kid....but I want to get me an ole Mega Drive/Genesis at some point just because I know there's lots of awesome games for it that I used to miss out on.

in other news...me and a friend of mine melee'd a tank to death today in L4D2...just the 2 of us. That was fun And I only need 2 more special ops missions now on veteran and then I got 1000 points for Modern Warfare 2. Several friends of mine are willing to help with those, thank goodness, because they are too difficult alone. I did get the 3 echo missions on veteran and many others done alone tough, hehe.

I finished Dragon Age after some 55 hours. It was a... weird ending? And from the looks of it they're doing a sequel.

[Octillus]

I finished Dragon Age after some 55 hours. It was a... weird ending? And from the looks of it they're doing a sequel.

To be fair the game was called Dragon Age: Origins.

I can see it becoming something like the Wheel of Time of video games... The final installment will come on the 59th gen console of the year 2107 after all the crew die so they have to get someone else to make the last one and fanboys worldwide shit themselves with rage at the dead guys for being so inconsiderate and dying before providing them with their game.

Thing is, other than Blueray, there's really not much of a difference between the 360 and PS3 in terms of hardware capabilities, so the superior hardware argument doesn't really pan out. Games generally look and perform the same or better on the 360 anyway, as that's what the majority of developers are targeting, and it's much easier to program for (so I understand).

You have to bear in mind that there's a very big difference between the specs of a system on paper, and how that system performs in reality.

Games that are multiplatform really do tend to play and look better on the 360 and thats entirely because it's easier to program for the 360 and ps3 always ends up with the lesser port of the 360/pc version of a game.

Game developers that create games for ps3 exclusively, can take advantage of the hardware on the console that pretty impressive in it's own way. Developers have said it's harder to program for ps3 but once they know how it works, they can make some stunning graphics (just look at the difference between uncharted one and two).
The difference between the 2 consoles really comes down to the processor and graphics card. The 360 has a better graphics card (hence better performance on multiplatform titles) and the ps3's processor is in turn better than the 360's. The ps3's processor is a 8-core cell processor (yeah thats right, 8 frickin cores!) which means it is actually able to calculate and work with 8 things at a time. well technically only seven things at a time because one core is always reserved for the crossbar menu. Compare that to the computer you're using right now that only have one or two cores, or if you're super hardcore you have like 4 .

So basically I guess both consoles have good hardware in them but in the end ps3 is such a wider package than just a gaming console that i think in the end its the better console. Just look at all the stuff you get in one package: Free online, blu-ray, built in wifi, and uh, other stuff im too lazy to remember.

yep so there you go.

I finished Dragon Age after some 55 hours. It was a... weird ending? And from the looks of it they're doing a sequel.

To be fair the game was called Dragon Age: Origins.

I never think that far.

The difference between the 2 consoles really comes down to the processor and graphics card. The 360 has a better graphics card (hence better performance on multiplatform titles) and the ps3's processor is in turn better than the 360's. The ps3's processor is a 8-core cell processor (yeah thats right, 8 frickin cores!) which means it is actually able to calculate and work with 8 things at a time. well technically only seven things at a time because one core is always reserved for the crossbar menu. Compare that to the computer you're using right now that only have one or two cores, or if you're super hardcore you have like 4 .

Actually, this goes back to what I was saying about tech specs on paper not really panning out in the real world. Firstly, when most laymen see a computer has 8 cores, they assume that it's going to run games 8 times faster than a single-core machine. This is actually not the case, especially not in games programming. Games are a type of software, that are actually very difficult to write to take full advantage of multiple cores, due to the fact that the different subsystems are all very reliant on data from other subsystems, and the game can't process the world simulation too far in advance, as it has to react to player input. Applications that are easy to "parallelise", are ones where you have lots of things to process that aren't reliant on each other, and you can just send them all off to be processed seperately.

The vertex shaders on your graphics card are a good example of a problem that's easy to efficiently make work in parallel. Each vertex needs to have some work done on it, and the results of a vertex shader on a single vertex, isn't reliant on the results from other vertices. The graphics card can essentially just farm out the vertex operations to a load of processors, and it scales well as hardware gets better, as they can just add more vertex pipelines to the graphics cards, and be able to process more vertices at once.

Secondly, the PS3 does have 8 cores, but they're not all general purpose processors. The PS3 has one general purpose processor, and 7 SPUs, which are good for certain kinds of operations, but much more limited than a general purpose processor.

The Xbox on the other hand, has three general purpose cores (each of which can run two hardware threads simulatenously, so to some extent it's more like having 6 processors).

My understanding, is that when you take all the pros and cons of both machines, they actually end up coming out about the same.
Aside from blueray of course, where the PS3 wins hands down, but on the other hand, Microsoft has a better online experience (even if you do have to pay for it)

Personally, if I were buying a console now, my decision would primarily be based on which console more of my friends own.