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#275566 by JuZ
Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:28 am
Pik_Nick'92 wrote:Its even worst for the police having to search the bodies on the island. I don't think I would ever do that. The most frightening part of the job, of course.


I have a family member who had just left a job along these lines. Difficult indeed, but they are pros and do their job very well... To be commended for sure.

I'm not for capital punishment at all, but surely in a case like this we could lock him in a small cell and let him rot with the bare minimum stimulation. Given he has reportedly admitted guilt, I don't think he's entitled to a great many rights any more.

Nonetheless, our thoughts and love go to the friends and families of those lost and all Norwegians affected by this tragedy.
#275570 by Octillus
Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:13 am
Lots of love Norway. I've always known Norwegians for the most part to be some of the sweetest funniest people I've met and have great times with all of those I've met.


Stay strong, fight the fire of hate, and trust in your system of justice.
#275579 by GaiaTimesInfinity
Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:11 am
It is indeed a tragedy.

However, it seems he was not your average shootout psychopath, not completely anyway. He seems smarter than the likes of Varg IMO. Has anyone else seen the video that he put online beforehand? There are things in it that make sense to me.

I'm not condoning is actions in any way shape or form - he clearly lost the plot completely but, I think if anything it seems a case of "I must be heard",... perhaps he felt isolated and pushed into a corner etc. I reckon he became obsessed and hyper-exaggerated everything. Says he got shunned from political parties for being too extreme or whatever, well that should have sent alarm bells ringing somewhere ages ago.

Instead of which he was somehow able to do all this stuff, planning for years on end, ordering tons of farming fertilizer without anyone noticing apparently? Not sure I buy it. Also this seems very reminiscent of some films, e.g. The Manchurian Candidate.
#275584 by GaiaTimesInfinity
Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:31 am
vt1100 wrote:I just hope that they put this guy away for rest of his life, with no possibility to contact media in any way.

I disagree with the last part. That gives the media a chance to paint it how they want. Do you trust today's global media? I don't.

He specifically asked for an open court and they have refused thus far, stating security reasons. And yet the Prime Minister was speaking on the matter in the opposite from what I've heard, about how it calls for more room for openness and democracy etc. If he doesn't get a chance to speak, the media can probably brand him how they want. Call him a totally batshit insane, say he was purely after media attention, claim that his beliefs were all a pile of mad crap or whatever - which may or may not be true, but we'd never know. Exactly the sort of thing that probably drove him this far in the first place.

I think when something this insane happens, I want to see and hear what he has to say for himself and make up my own mind. They can send him to the firing squad or ignore him for the rest of eternity after that.
#275587 by Billy Rhomboid
Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:49 am
GaiaTimesInfinity wrote: Call him a totally batshit insane, say he was purely after media attention, claim that his beliefs were all a pile of mad crap or whatever. Which may or may not be true, but we'd never know.

I think when something this insane happens, I want to see and hear what he has to say for himself and make up my own mind.


You don't think the 1500 page manifesto of batshit insanity, racial hatred and unabomber plagiarising gives an adequate picture of what he was about?

One thing that stood out as a bit odd to me was that he set 'an Organic farm business' as a cover for buying multiple tons of chemical fertiliser. Guess he didn't understand the meaning of the word organic, and that Norwegian fertiliser supply companies don't ask too many questions. Here I suspect such a move would have flagged up the question. I buy reasonably large quantities of Potassium Nitrate for meat preservation purposes but can only do so because I am an established client of my supplier - an unknown buyer would be flagged as suspicious.
#275591 by vt1100
Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:10 am
GaiaTimesInfinity wrote:
vt1100 wrote:I just hope that they put this guy away for rest of his life, with no possibility to contact media in any way.

I disagree with the last part. That gives the media a chance to paint it how they want. Do you trust today's global media? I don't.

He specifically asked for an open court and they have refused thus far, stating security reasons. And yet the Prime Minister was speaking on the matter in the opposite from what I've heard, about how it calls for more room for openness and democracy etc. If he doesn't get a chance to speak, the media can probably brand him how they want. Call him a totally batshit insane, say he was purely after media attention, claim that his beliefs were all a pile of mad crap or whatever - which may or may not be true, but we'd never know. Exactly the sort of thing that probably drove him this far in the first place.

I think when something this insane happens, I want to see and hear what he has to say for himself and make up my own mind. They can send him to the firing squad or ignore him for the rest of eternity after that.


My point is that this nut gets too much media coverage already, it doesn't take genius to understand that there actually is good deal of people who worship his kind of trash. Bury him and forget, that should send a message. And if someone brings human rights question to table, I think that this individual gave up those rights when he shot his first victim.
#275621 by GaiaTimesInfinity
Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:21 pm
Billy Rhomboid wrote:You don't think the 1500 page manifesto of batshit insanity, racial hatred and unabomber plagiarising gives an adequate picture of what he was about?

Again, not condoning anything. And I haven't had a chance to read the manifesto, but from the excerpts I've read there is nothing specifically racist about it. He states clearly his political stance is anti-racist and is anti-ethnocentrism. More here...

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/07/the-political-ideas-of-anders-behring-breivik/

One thing is for definite imo, he is very intelligent.
#275645 by Wosko
Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:35 pm
Such a sad tragedy, hate just causes more hate just putting gas on the fire. More and more anti-white terrorism propaganda popping up cause of this and giving them a justified reason for it. It makes me think humans dont have the capacity for peace, theyre just hateful beasts by nature...

Hopefully some good comes out of all this bad.
#275656 by mrbean667
Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:01 pm
Wosko wrote:It makes me think humans dont have the capacity for peace, theyre just hateful beasts by nature...



Something I struggle with every day :sad:
#275672 by GaiaTimesInfinity
Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:53 am
Hate doesn't even come into it necessarily (keep in mind he's killed his own countrymen... the ones he supposedly supports). Everyone has limits. You simply can't expect to drastically change peoples countries without a proper vote, and hope that it all turns out peacefully. Sure the vast majority of people are not going to go on a crazy rampage yet, but incidents like this highlight the problems that go unspoken.

Multiculturalism as it has been implemented will never work peacefully in Europe. There are simply too many people who support the old world and traditional conservative ways to tolerate being trampled over by globalist greed. Enoch Powell himself warned about rivers of blood years ago.

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