Talk about whatever you want to here, but stay correct
#279170 by Lettuce
Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:45 am
HA! On my old forum we changed all the swearwords to pesto. You honestly can't take someone with forum fever that seriously when they say


"YOU CAN GO AND EAT PESTO FOR ALL I CARE."
#279172 by Faffy
Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:01 am
OH I LOVE THAT CAN WE DO THAT PLEASE PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE!!!??
For pesto's sake :3
#279176 by swervedriver
Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:33 am
GaiaTimesInfinity wrote:You shouldn't always avoid confrontations just for the sake of it, or for being worried of consequences, or worse yet for being too lazy to start one. Online we are totally free to speak our mind :D

You're totally free, but not without consequences.

Also, there's quite a difference between a wild deer and a domesticated animal that has been loved and nurtured for years. Just thought I'd point out that flaw in your analogy.

I like pesto.
#279177 by GaiaTimesInfinity
Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:45 am
swervedriver wrote:Also, there's quite a difference between a wild deer and a domesticated animal that has been loved and nurtured for years.

You're right.... the wild deer had no one to love and nurture it for years, and no one to hug it as it died :sad:
#279178 by Octillus
Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:05 am
GaiaTimesInfinity wrote:
swervedriver wrote:Also, there's quite a difference between a wild deer and a domesticated animal that has been loved and nurtured for years.

You're right.... the wild deer had no one to love and nurture it for years, and no one to hug it as it died :sad:

Continue to get bent.

Perhaps you're so devoid of empathy that you can't realize that maybe, just maybe as sad as it was about the animal it has more to do with the other human being.

If you want to step over people who are crying, that's fine, but I still reserve the right to find you to be a monster.
#279182 by GaiaTimesInfinity
Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:28 am
Octillus wrote:Perhaps you're so devoid of empathy that you can't realize that maybe, just maybe as sad as it was about the animal it has more to do with the other human being.

If you want to step over people who are crying, that's fine, but I still reserve the right to find you to be a monster.

Not a case of lack empathy, if no one was seeing to them I would have gone seen if they were alright too. But I would have been far from heart broken,... that's the different perspective I was sharing.

Props for the cool insult.
#279183 by Octillus
Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:33 am
GaiaTimesInfinity wrote:
Octillus wrote:Perhaps you're so devoid of empathy that you can't realize that maybe, just maybe as sad as it was about the animal it has more to do with the other human being.

If you want to step over people who are crying, that's fine, but I still reserve the right to find you to be a monster.

Not a case of lack empathy, if no one was seeing to them I would have gone seen if they were alright too. But I would have been far from heart broken,... that's the different perspective I was sharing.

Props for the cool insult.

Nah bro, you started right out the gate equating softness to a problem in the world which essentially is an attack. Then you continue to bring it up because you're trying to make a point, and while I see you're trying to do that, you're doing so by being insulting.

If it were in a vacuum and we were discussing hypothetical events in a debate we could from a place of different perspectives, but you are literally attacking how I felt about someone else's pain. And you seem to feel nothing about this, so yeah, I'll continue to think the way that I do, just like you will.
#279186 by GaiaTimesInfinity
Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:49 am
Octillus wrote:Nah bro, you started right out the gate equating softness to a problem in the world which essentially is an attack. Then you continue to bring it up because you're trying to make a point, and while I see you're trying to do that, you're doing so by being insulting.

If it were in a vacuum and we were discussing hypothetical events in a debate we could from a place of different perspectives, but you are literally attacking how I felt about someone else's pain. And you seem to feel nothing about this, so yeah, I'll continue to think the way that I do, just like you will.

Right originally I was addressing ("attacking" if you like) your softness indirectly, you chose to take me up on that so I attempted to show you why it was an invalid and illogical response to the situation.

I'm not a psychologist to explain things in the best way possible to help people understand, so sometimes a bit of "attacking" is needed, but I just know what works and what doesn't.

Empathy for such an event in such a manner as you did has little or rather no validity; it doesn't help the person who is suffering... that being the woman, and it doesn't help you, as it gets you down and then leaves you feeling "emotionally weird inside" at the end of the day, which you personally admitted. So if it isn't helping you, or the woman, who is it helping? Answer, no one.

I will indeed continue to think as I do about this particular incident, because I am right. I might not have expressed it the best way possible, but that doesn't change the fact.
#279188 by Octillus
Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:14 am
You are absolutely wrong. Who knows? Maybe I could have done something? maybe another person needed to be called? It's far better by your methods to absolutely stick your head down and not pay attention.

The fact of the matter is, if we don't have empathy for those in the world around us, disassociative personality types disconnecting from others and stepping over the situation, like "Hurr, not my problem" are inviting themselves into a world of narcissism and honestly potential sociopath behavior. I find it alarming, reprehensible, and absolutely disgusting when people do this sort of thing. By all means be out for yourselves, I'm not so shaken by the dog that I'm not able to continue my own life, but moments like these, independent from the empathy felt for someone losing a loved one (be it animal or person) serve as reminders.

The reminder that our time on this earth is fleeting, regardless of what you believe. If you can't reach out and help people while you're here whenever you can find yourself to be able to, what good are you, honestly?

I won't air dirty laundry, but maybe, just maybe other people might have had similar circumstances occur in their lives? Of course you'll take this as the reason why I have empathy, which in turn would be false, but that's also why I can knowingly say I'm sorry. Empathy crosses over into being sympathy as well. Don't get me wrong, I would've done the exact same thing every time. The fact that you'd seem content just not giving a shit is your own personal burden to bear, but the fact that you believe that the world would be better served by feeling less screams of stunted personal growth and a lack of respect for life and the world around you.

So yeah, that's why I think you're a monster.

I think I've said all I could on this point without either crossing or a line, or making a thread entirely about my life.

The original post was placed in here on random thoughts because there was a series of events that started with the last video project I worked on with my boss and ended in me being manhandled on the bus. In the middle of all of that, I saw someone go through an emotional ordeal, and I reached out and it was fucking sad. If you think that's wrong, I honestly want nothing to do with you in any capacity ever in my life. But if I saw you in a state of duress, I'd still stop by and talk to you.

As a bit of coincidence, I'm going to visit family for a bit and then go to a baseball game tomorrow, so I won't be around. Needless to say, I'm not going to comment on the previous subject again because this is something I fervently believe in to my core (like the religious believe in god level) and I would be incapable of performing my duties as a moderator if I were to continue.

I already know you have to have the last word, so I'm not going to stop you, but I really do hope you find whatever thing that is that's missing in you.
#279191 by GaiaTimesInfinity
Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:21 am
You are totally and absolutely wrong in every way shape and form, and doing yourself and others damage with it.

And more importantly you have misquoted, misread, and no doubt misunderstood what was being shared with you for your benefit. Thus I cannot continue to engage you here and now without probably jeopardising my membership. So......onto more random thoughts........

It's raining here, I like lots of rain.
#279201 by KeasbyNights
Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:29 pm
I think both of you were right in some degree. To what degree I shan't mention. :) I'm a lover not a fighter.

Anyway, so I looked at all the songs in my iTunes library, and it would take a total of 19 days to play all the way through. Complete running time being 19:00:36:19.

Holy crap. :lol:
#279203 by aleksi
Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:42 pm
GaiaTimesInfinity wrote:You are totally and absolutely wrong in every way shape and form--

But you did have to have the last word didn't you. :roll:

Gaia you can try to reason emotions but it'll get you nowhere. If my mother would die today I'd be pretty much paralyzed for god knows how long. Would it help anyone? No but that's the "proper" emotional response! If a cute puppy got stuffed by acid and set in flames I'd be sad. If an asian giant hornet got the same treatment it wouldn't affect me. Makes no logical sense and it never will. You seem to think that we should care of every being on earth equal amount or not care at all. We are human beings. That'll never happen.
#279205 by Faffy
Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:54 pm
This video leaps to mind:
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That's all... : d
#279209 by mrbean667
Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:59 pm
Wow, the last few pages have been intense...

Here's my current state of mind:

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EDIT: Cunt. I had to try it. :wink:

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