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#100799 by Biert
Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:03 am
Join the group, everyone! We need 3 more members to get our charts calculated.

And we still need an avatar and conncections.

#100809 by gozu
Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:21 am
joined as strontiumfox :D

#101589 by Biert
Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:43 pm
*bump*

2 more members for the group, please! Only two more! Really come on, it's no harm, just sign up! Thank you!

#101595 by Torniojaws
Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:05 pm
Strange, I thought I already joined it ages ago, but it turns out I wasn't in at all :?

Joined the group ;)

#101596 by Biert
Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:06 pm
Torniojaws wrote:Strange, I thought I already joined it ages ago, but it turns out I wasn't in at all :?

Joined the group ;)

There's a HevyDevy group and a HevyDevy Forums group. Subtle difference.

Thanks for joining!

#102034 by Biert
Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:10 am
Woohoo we have charts!

#102035 by sj_2150
Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:15 am
Biert wrote:Woohoo we have charts!

why is there ":Devin Townsend" and then "The Devin Townsend Band"?

#102037 by Biert
Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:20 am
sj_2150 wrote:
Biert wrote:Woohoo we have charts!

why is there ":Devin Townsend" and then "The Devin Townsend Band"?

Accelerated Evolution and Synchestra are Devin Townsend Band albums.
Ocean Machine, Infinity, Physicist, Terria and Devlab are Devin Townsend albums.

#102039 by sj_2150
Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:21 am
Biert wrote:
sj_2150 wrote:
Biert wrote:Woohoo we have charts!

why is there ":Devin Townsend" and then "The Devin Townsend Band"?

Accelerated Evolution and Synchestra are Devin Townsend Band albums.
Ocean Machine, Infinity, Physicist, Terria and Devlab are Devin Townsend albums.

yeah but its the same band...

#102042 by Biert
Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:29 am
sj_2150 wrote:
Biert wrote:
sj_2150 wrote:
Biert wrote:Woohoo we have charts!

why is there ":Devin Townsend" and then "The Devin Townsend Band"?

Accelerated Evolution and Synchestra are Devin Townsend Band albums.
Ocean Machine, Infinity, Physicist, Terria and Devlab are Devin Townsend albums.

yeah but its the same band...

Not really... DTB wasn't formed until AE, and all the previous albums Devin released were under the name of Devin Townsend. It wasn't really a band back then I think. Every album had different musicians, and on tours it was usually SYL playing Devin Townsend songs.

It wasn't until Accelerated Evolution that Devin formed a real band around the music. They're the same band in on tours and in the studio, and the other members probably have more input in the music too I guess...
It also distinguishes the band, from Devins other projects like Devlab and the Hummer.

(I may be wrong, correct me if I am)

#102045 by sj_2150
Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:05 am
Biert wrote:
sj_2150 wrote:
Biert wrote:
sj_2150 wrote:
Biert wrote:Woohoo we have charts!

why is there ":Devin Townsend" and then "The Devin Townsend Band"?

Accelerated Evolution and Synchestra are Devin Townsend Band albums.
Ocean Machine, Infinity, Physicist, Terria and Devlab are Devin Townsend albums.

yeah but its the same band...

Not really... DTB wasn't formed until AE, and all the previous albums Devin released were under the name of Devin Townsend. It wasn't really a band back then I think. Every album had different musicians, and on tours it was usually SYL playing Devin Townsend songs.

It wasn't until Accelerated Evolution that Devin formed a real band around the music. They're the same band in on tours and in the studio, and the other members probably have more input in the music too I guess...
It also distinguishes the band, from Devins other projects like Devlab and the Hummer.

(I may be wrong, correct me if I am)

yeah but if they play songs before AE, its the same band

#102131 by gurp13
Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:04 pm
sj_2150 wrote:
Biert wrote:
sj_2150 wrote:
Biert wrote:
sj_2150 wrote:
Biert wrote:Woohoo we have charts!

why is there ":Devin Townsend" and then "The Devin Townsend Band"?

Accelerated Evolution and Synchestra are Devin Townsend Band albums.
Ocean Machine, Infinity, Physicist, Terria and Devlab are Devin Townsend albums.

yeah but its the same band...

Not really... DTB wasn't formed until AE, and all the previous albums Devin released were under the name of Devin Townsend. It wasn't really a band back then I think. Every album had different musicians, and on tours it was usually SYL playing Devin Townsend songs.

It wasn't until Accelerated Evolution that Devin formed a real band around the music. They're the same band in on tours and in the studio, and the other members probably have more input in the music too I guess...
It also distinguishes the band, from Devins other projects like Devlab and the Hummer.

(I may be wrong, correct me if I am)

yeah but if they play songs before AE, its the same band


I think it's a matter of perspective and that this ^^^^ above is a pretty facile perspective, no offense intended. I don't think the songs you play determine the band. Heck, many people argue that Pink Floyd with Roger Waters is not the same band. Or, Van Halen without David Lee Roth. There are very good arguments there.

Physicist was obviously recorded with the other members of SYL. Terria had Gene Hoglan on drums, but had Craig McFarland on bass and Jamie Meyer doing piano and keyboard with Devin doing everything else. Ocean Machine had Marty Chapman on bass *and* drums with Devin doing practically everything else. For Infinity we got Gene again on drums, Christian Olde Webbers on upright bass (presumably only on Bad Devil and Andy Codrington on trombone, again, probably only on Bad Devil.

So, looking at those, the line up on Synchestra and Accelerated Evolution are the same. Other than that, besides having Gene Hoglan play drums on Terria, Infinity, and Physicist there has been little consistency between "solo" albums. I don't think the argument can be made that the Devin Townsend Band is any that plays non-Strapping Young Lad songs but still Devin Townsend songs. Instead, to be even more precise, Ocean Machine was originally the name of that "band." and "Physicist" was the name of that "band" or project. Remember, Devin tended to have projects outside of Strapping Young Lad.

This is why I organize my iTunes library thus: Artist - Townsend Devin for Accelerated Evolution, Terria, Infinity, Physicist, and Ocean Machine. It's just easier. Maybe one of these days I'll change it to Artist= The Devin Townsend Band. But, we'll see. It's just a lot more complicated than saying it's all the same band. 'Cause, as you can see, it aint.

#102132 by horse
Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:13 pm
My Top 10 Overall:

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I've been listening to In Flames a lot recently...

#102222 by fullgore
Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:00 am
sj_2150 wrote:
Biert wrote:
sj_2150 wrote:
Biert wrote:
sj_2150 wrote:
Biert wrote:Woohoo we have charts!

why is there ":Devin Townsend" and then "The Devin Townsend Band"?

Accelerated Evolution and Synchestra are Devin Townsend Band albums.
Ocean Machine, Infinity, Physicist, Terria and Devlab are Devin Townsend albums.

yeah but its the same band...

Not really... DTB wasn't formed until AE, and all the previous albums Devin released were under the name of Devin Townsend. It wasn't really a band back then I think. Every album had different musicians, and on tours it was usually SYL playing Devin Townsend songs.

It wasn't until Accelerated Evolution that Devin formed a real band around the music. They're the same band in on tours and in the studio, and the other members probably have more input in the music too I guess...
It also distinguishes the band, from Devins other projects like Devlab and the Hummer.

(I may be wrong, correct me if I am)

yeah but if they play songs before AE, its the same band
Well then by that logic you might as well call a Metallica cover band Metallica, no?

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