http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7F3O6WYfHQ

I feel sad for them.. I don't like their music, but you don't throw stuff in their face..

If you don't like the music then gtfo cuz somebody else might..

It's kind of wrong to call out the so called "shitty" music though. It's popular for a reason apparently. Like I said before though, stuff like Nickelback and Lil Wayne are accessible because they're catchy and simply. People like simplicity. Simplicity sels cause it's easy to market.

This explains why bands like The Mars Volta and Porcupine Tree haven't hit it big; they're a bit too complicated and aren't easy to market. They may be acclaimed in indie circles and (shudder) rolling stone's pompous bi-monthly drivel, but they're certainly not popular in the sense of Disturbed or All American Rejects. (BTW, what do they have in common? Strong hooks and simple concrete song structure!)

You know, the popular music sucks in any decade, then nobody remembers its existance ten years later. The 70s had Toto and stuff, not Floyd, topping charts. I think the reason is just that to be original you sort of have to be something people aren't as used to. After ten or twenty years people are used to it, but at the time the major demographics (which aren't primarily people who care about music, heh) will look for something that sounds like the things that have been around for ten years, something safe. So I think it's a matter of originality rather than simplicity.

All we need to do is get somebody who everyone deems "cool" (like say, Carson Daily?) to tell the masses that Devin Townsend is great and is the latest trend, then suddenly all the cool kids would be sporting Devin Townsend tshirts, and theyd be playing his music all over the radio.

This may be selfish of me, but I am glad only a select few understand Devin's music. If I had to share him with millions of other people, I wouldn't be part of this exclusive lil' club here, and I guarantee we wouldn't hear from him. The first thing I do when I get up before work is log in here to be part of this community and chat. I love it.

I know this attitude doesn't help Devin's financial plight, and sort of keeps him in a box, but if he REALLY wanted fame.....he could have had it with SYL. He pulled away because he has integrity. i respect him for that.

Awck.....I cringe at the thought of walking in the mall and seeing a binch of whiny brats with Dev's mug on their chests.....

i agree entirely, daneulephus. The underground-ness of Devin's music makes it special to us, and makes it almost like our own little experience. Youre also right about his presence on here. Itd be nonexistent if he were a "rockstar" (i hate that term)

the Nickleback thing isn't so bad.. at least they can pull off sad but true.. I've seen way worse. nways I did see something cool last night.. Johnny Winter.. fuck he's so old and cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SeLISb0 ... re=related

dev, i think you should really think about your intention of bashing Nickelback and the music industry. it's a bad thing, that's for sure. but it must be something, on which you can look back in a few years and say that it was the right thing to do and just not a short period of time in which you think that it is right.

on the other hand, you are able to tell more or less serious things in a very humorous way - Ziltoid, Punky Brüster.

i'm sure you will do the right thing and i'll buy Addicted anyway

But the message and how it impacts would be the same on you no matter how many people listen to him, would it not? Personally I'd love if the whole world had the chance to hear him, because I think he deserves it after all these years of producing solid records on such a regular basis. Consistency is a hard thing to find in a lot of the artists of today, and I think it'd be a just reward for those who are to be heard around the globe. I'd put the man and his music being heard worldwide and him attaining as much love and support as possible before me feeling like part of a special club any day. Even if he has stated in the past that mainstream acceptance makes him nauseous, I'm sure he'd like to get his music out to as many people as possible, considering the effort he puts into it.

And I'm pretty sure he'd still come on here and put some posts up. Like, there's been a huge influx of new people joining and it hasn't deterred him. He doesn't seem like the kind to let it inflate his head to the point in which he can't fit through the log-in door.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7F3O6WYfHQ

I feel sad for them.. I don't like their music, but you don't throw stuff in their face..

If you don't like the music then gtfo cuz somebody else might..

Yes, I whole heartedly agree. You don't have to like Nickleback - but it's really uncalled for to make a point of attending their concert to throw stuff at those guys. Jeez, that's so disrespectful. Is that common? Should it be expected?

I recently came to the conclusion that Nickelback is music for people who are not only middle aged, but have completely surrendered to middle-age. You know, when some shitty rock song comes on the radio and a 50 year old relative starts dad dancing to it, yeah, that's what Nickelback are. Nickelback are the dried-out husk that remains when you wring all of the life out of rock music.

Nickelback are what you start listening to, when you've competely reconciled yourself to the fact that you're going to die one day, and that day is relatively soon, and that you're not even going to fight it any more because you're cool with it. They're the knitted-cardigan and slippers of music.

My view is further strengthened by this furniture advert.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKCMGGN1 ... re=related

30 seconds of purified dad dancing.

If you're doing an anti music industry album you've gotta have a loudness war song that gets more and more compressed as it goes on 'til it's inaudible as to what's happening. It'd be hilarious. Use a really catchy tune and completely destroy it! I can almost hear the chanting now. LOUDER LOUDER!!!

Yes, this.

You know, the popular music sucks in any decade, then nobody remembers its existance ten years later. The 70s had Toto and stuff, not Floyd, topping charts. I think the reason is just that to be original you sort of have to be something people aren't as used to. After ten or twenty years people are used to it, but at the time the major demographics (which aren't primarily people who care about music, heh) will look for something that sounds like the things that have been around for ten years, something safe. So I think it's a matter of originality rather than simplicity.

Sorry, but I disagree...we had some pretty good pop/rock acts through the decades (including Toto - Steve Lukather is an awesome musician, regardless of the "cheesy" factor about his band), let's see: Beatles, Floyd (yes, they´ge gone top chart), Def Leppard, Steely Dan, Stevie Wonder, Asia, Bruce Springsteen, even through the infamous 90s - Faith No More, U2, No Doubt, Bjork, Alice in Chains, NIN, Foo Fighters...damn, even Pantera entered the Billboard chart! And more recently, we've got SOAD, QOTSA, Muse and the Mars Volta reaching top charts. Completely different bands, but we can't deny: they we're/are original and did great quality records.

So, I believe that be "pop" is not a bad thing at all.

The real question is:

a) most people won't look for interesting underground musical acts, just waiting for the MTV/myspace/youtube/twitter recommendations (the so-called "hype");

b) even worse, most people just don't listen/read/absorb a musician's work with due attention. You spend sometimes a whole year inside the studio, taking care of every little detail, crafting a concept, mastering your art...and in the end of the day, a bunch of anonymous guys will download it for free in crappy quality, listen in a half hour while playing PS3 or something, then, based in this "rich and focused" experience, will say if your music sucks or not. Even with Dev, even with Ki, we are witnessing this process right now, just take a look at the recent posts.

Of course, we can't tell people how they have to experience an artistic work...

But this "fast food" way of thinkg is pretty unfair, in my point of view.

i don't want dev to go pop, i could spend all day ranting how much i hate the mentality, etc. this is random but i got dragged to see alvin and the chipmunks once, worst movie i've EVER seen...as a movie. but if you think of it as a documentary on the pop mentality its a perfect personification and makes me appreciate underground music even more.

but anyway, Dev, if you do go pop...make sure you release "The Devin Townsend Band 3D Experience," complete with scenes of you being chased from your motorcade by hords of screaming fans

(forgive the jonas brothers refrence, i work at a movie theater for the moment)

speaking of canada and music, look what i just saw on the news

speaking of canada and music, look what i just saw on the news

Haha he fucking deserves it. The interview was fucking ridiculous. What a child.

I hate every single thing my country has produced aside from Rush and Devin Townsend. Especially Celine Dion. Although, Canada is totally the best at music ever for just one man.
I am sorry but after Ki I think I want to sleep with him.