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#249974 by Quinnzor
Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:28 am
My friend and I are debating over how life would be impacted if our dimension was percieved in 4 dimensions. That meaning that we percieved length, width, depth, and X. X being 'time', the placeholder for unknown dimensional metrics. What are your thoughts?
#249977 by shiram
Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:39 am
Uh thats a bit hard to speculate on...
Maybe if Stephen Hawking were a fan of Devy we could get this thing going?
#249979 by Quinnzor
Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:42 am
shiram wrote:Uh thats a bit hard to speculate on...
Maybe if Stephen Hawking were a fan of Devy we could get this thing going?

I'll get on this.
#249987 by Lauri
Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:48 pm
You mean that we could see in the future or in the past exactly like we can look to the left or to the right?
#250003 by soundsofentropy
Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:21 pm
Quinnzor wrote:...if our dimension was percieved in 4 dimensions.


Wut. Seems you're curling up space into a point.

Quinnzor wrote:That meaning that we percieved length, width, depth, and X. X being 'time', the placeholder for unknown dimensional metrics. What are your thoughts?


I don't know about you, but I already perceive 4 dimensions: 3 spatial, 1 time. Are you posing a question about the existence of time, or about the perception of further spatial dimensions?

Anyway, you and your friend may be interested in M-theory (or more particularly, the holographic principle). More controversially (and definitely less "rigorous"), see Heim theory. Or just some advanced math stuff.
#250022 by mEh!
Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:37 am
We are blocked in the 3rd dimension right? we can get to see parts of the 4th dimension but we will never be able to participate in it.
#250035 by Quinnzor
Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:01 am
Lauri wrote:You mean that we could see in the future or in the past exactly like we can look to the left or to the right?

Theoretically speaking, two identical things in a thrid dimensional perception wouldn't look identeical in a FOURTH dimensional perception unless they were produced at the exact same moment in time.
#250036 by Quinnzor
Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:01 am
soundsofentropy wrote:
Quinnzor wrote:...if our dimension was percieved in 4 dimensions.


Wut. Seems you're curling up space into a point.

Quinnzor wrote:That meaning that we percieved length, width, depth, and X. X being 'time', the placeholder for unknown dimensional metrics. What are your thoughts?


I don't know about you, but I already perceive 4 dimensions: 3 spatial, 1 time. Are you posing a question about the existence of time, or about the perception of further spatial dimensions?

Anyway, you and your friend may be interested in M-theory (or more particularly, the holographic principle). More controversially (and definitely less "rigorous"), see Heim theory. Or just some advanced math stuff.

I'll check it out.
Thanks.
#250037 by swervedriver
Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:45 am
Talk not of science! Heathens!
#250043 by grrrv
Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:12 am
Quinnzor wrote:Theoretically speaking, two identical things in a thrid dimensional perception wouldn't look identeical in a FOURTH dimensional perception unless they were produced at the exact same moment in time.

Yes they would. If you print two copies of a photo, and look at them, they look the same. The photos are identical 2D objects in a 3D world. Your scenario is the same thing, just one dimension higher.
#250044 by Quinnzor
Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:51 am
grrrv wrote:
Quinnzor wrote:Theoretically speaking, two identical things in a thrid dimensional perception wouldn't look identeical in a FOURTH dimensional perception unless they were produced at the exact same moment in time.

Yes they would. If you print two copies of a photo, and look at them, they look the same. The photos are identical 2D objects in a 3D world. Your scenario is the same thing, just one dimension higher.

True.. I could have worded it better.
I was talking more about 4-D Objects.
Once again, language fails me.
#250045 by Lauri
Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:18 am
So is your question about what life would be like if we lived in a 4-dimensional space? Or what life would be like if we could perceive time like we perceive three other dimensions of space? Or something else?

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