DTP boxsets galore!
#288559 by Lolliklauer
Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:50 am
Manwards wrote:My friend and I have no musical knowledge or software whatsoever, but we're interested in all the layering that goes into his songs, so hopefully they'll be in a format where we can just separate stuff out and give it a listen. Sounds like a way to spend an afternoon!


+1

It hope for seperate audiofiles with drums, guitars, bass, vocals, orchestra and samples or something. Hopefully lossless, but 320k-mp3 would be good enough for me. I remember that NIN some time ago released tracks in studio quality (24 bit, 192 or 96 khz?) for remixing, but those were really big files - too big for an already packed DVD, i think. I don't know how big "real" protools-sessions are, but i would guess a few GB for layered stuff like Devin's?
#288560 by BenPuritanSlain
Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:05 am
A pretty basic session can turn in to a couple of gig when you put everything onto it...i recon the supercrush one would easily fill a DVD on its own
#288569 by Faffy
Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:24 am
Mike St-Jean said the boxset looks better in real life than the pics. DO LIEK. ^_^
#288628 by Wintermadman1100
Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:48 pm
bah! The cmdistro website STILL isnt working for and i cant pre order. Im gonna be pissed if it gets sold out before i can order it :( :evil:
#288631 by cheechonaleash
Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:19 pm
Wintermadman1100 wrote:bah! The cmdistro website STILL isnt working for and i cant pre order. Im gonna be pissed if it gets sold out before i can order it :( :evil:


The site's loading up just fine for me... :?:
#288634 by Wintermadman1100
Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:54 pm
cheechonaleash wrote:
Wintermadman1100 wrote:bah! The cmdistro website STILL isnt working for and i cant pre order. Im gonna be pissed if it gets sold out before i can order it :( :evil:


The site's loading up just fine for me... :?:



i loads fine for me i just cant complete my order.
#288658 by cheechonaleash
Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:51 pm
Wintermadman1100 wrote:
cheechonaleash wrote:
Wintermadman1100 wrote:bah! The cmdistro website STILL isnt working for and i cant pre order. Im gonna be pissed if it gets sold out before i can order it :( :evil:


The site's loading up just fine for me... :?:



i loads fine for me i just cant complete my order.


Well...shit. Hopefully it all works out soon for you!
#288704 by static2
Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:15 am
Lolliklauer wrote:It hope for seperate audiofiles with drums, guitars, bass, vocals, orchestra and samples or something. Hopefully lossless, but 320k-mp3 would be good enough for me. I remember that NIN some time ago released tracks in studio quality (24 bit, 192 or 96 khz?) for remixing, but those were really big files - too big for an already packed DVD, i think. I don't know how big "real" protools-sessions are, but i would guess a few GB for layered stuff like Devin's?


the NIN multitracks are all 16bit, 44.1kHz, but there are lots of them per song, as they kept as many distinct layers as possible (besides guitars, vocals and drum layers being stuck in their respective conglomerate stems).

the industry standard is to have one ProTools master session with every single tiny bit recorded, then use a stripped-down, fully-edited PT session for mixing, which would have only the final stuff we hear in the song (finalized mix, all the needed FX, etc.) but without alternate takes and so on. the PT mix session would likely be the source of the "Bender" and "Juular" layers to be released, which, in all likelihood, are probably just WAV stem mixes of each instrument, for compatibility purposes.
#288708 by Abydost
Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:30 am
static2 wrote:
Lolliklauer wrote:It hope for seperate audiofiles with drums, guitars, bass, vocals, orchestra and samples or something. Hopefully lossless, but 320k-mp3 would be good enough for me. I remember that NIN some time ago released tracks in studio quality (24 bit, 192 or 96 khz?) for remixing, but those were really big files - too big for an already packed DVD, i think. I don't know how big "real" protools-sessions are, but i would guess a few GB for layered stuff like Devin's?


the NIN multitracks are all 16bit, 44.1kHz, but there are lots of them per song, as they kept as many distinct layers as possible (besides guitars, vocals and drum layers being stuck in their respective conglomerate stems).

the industry standard is to have one ProTools master session with every single tiny bit recorded, then use a stripped-down, fully-edited PT session for mixing, which would have only the final stuff we hear in the song (finalized mix, all the needed FX, etc.) but without alternate takes and so on. the PT mix session would likely be the source of the "Bender" and "Juular" layers to be released, which, in all likelihood, are probably just WAV stem mixes of each instrument, for compatibility purposes.


Depends how many tracks but if you'd get the whole original session (instead of just stems) you'd be probably looking at around 4-10gb. Depending how many tracks. I'm used to having a shitload of tracks. :P
#288791 by wildhearts666
Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:47 am
so...Where can i get black vinyl ? and how about white vinyl
inside out ---- white ?
cm ---black ?
#288869 by OnslaughtSix
Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:16 am
Abydost wrote:
static2 wrote:
Lolliklauer wrote:It hope for seperate audiofiles with drums, guitars, bass, vocals, orchestra and samples or something. Hopefully lossless, but 320k-mp3 would be good enough for me. I remember that NIN some time ago released tracks in studio quality (24 bit, 192 or 96 khz?) for remixing, but those were really big files - too big for an already packed DVD, i think. I don't know how big "real" protools-sessions are, but i would guess a few GB for layered stuff like Devin's?


the NIN multitracks are all 16bit, 44.1kHz, but there are lots of them per song, as they kept as many distinct layers as possible (besides guitars, vocals and drum layers being stuck in their respective conglomerate stems).

the industry standard is to have one ProTools master session with every single tiny bit recorded, then use a stripped-down, fully-edited PT session for mixing, which would have only the final stuff we hear in the song (finalized mix, all the needed FX, etc.) but without alternate takes and so on. the PT mix session would likely be the source of the "Bender" and "Juular" layers to be released, which, in all likelihood, are probably just WAV stem mixes of each instrument, for compatibility purposes.


Depends how many tracks but if you'd get the whole original session (instead of just stems) you'd be probably looking at around 4-10gb. Depending how many tracks. I'm used to having a shitload of tracks. :P


I just recently exported full WAVs of one of my songs which is about 6 minutes long; I did some minor conglomerating of tracks (all drums on one track, all vocals on one track etc.) but all guitars were kept seperate (I had a couple tracks with clean guitars I wanted seperated out) so all in all I think I had something like seven or eight tracks and it didn't even come up to 300 megs zipped.
#288937 by static2
Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:53 pm
OnslaughtSix wrote:I just recently exported full WAVs of one of my songs which is about 6 minutes long; I did some minor conglomerating of tracks (all drums on one track, all vocals on one track etc.) but all guitars were kept seperate (I had a couple tracks with clean guitars I wanted seperated out) so all in all I think I had something like seven or eight tracks and it didn't even come up to 300 megs zipped.

Abydost was talking about the full, original Pro Tools session, with all tracks and no mixdowns (hence "instead of just stems"). the point, i think, being that it'd be one whole DVD for one song, which is a bit infeasible (a good point for sure).
#289000 by mikejs
Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:38 pm
Just noticed in the track listing for the DVDs in the box set - "Promo Video - Supercrush!".

This is new isn't it? Or did I miss something?
#289003 by Pockets1777red
Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:52 pm
mikejs wrote:Just noticed in the track listing for the DVDs in the box set - "Promo Video - Supercrush!".

This is new isn't it? Or did I miss something?


I remember Dev saying something about making a live music video for this? Correct me if I'm wrong ppls!

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